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Thursday, June 14, 2012

anyone know some awesome apps for chrome?

Friday, June 15, 2012

yeah

Friday, June 15, 2012

me too

Friday, June 15, 2012

me 3

Friday, June 15, 2012

Me 0 since I don't use chrome. Firefox for the win.

Friday, June 15, 2012

I'm with Legendry. FireFox for the win.

Friday, June 15, 2012

LegendarySS4 wrote : Me 0 since I don't use chrome. Firefox for the win.

The same firefox for the win.

Saturday, June 16, 2012

I hear that firefox is good for browser based games, but I still think chrome is better

Saturday, June 16, 2012

GoldenWarrior wrote : I hear that firefox is good for browser based games, but I still think chrome is better

me too

Saturday, June 16, 2012

what about opera?

Saturday, June 16, 2012

opera vacuums!!!
its only good for phones

Saturday, June 16, 2012

Having a bias towards a single browser is rather foolhardy when you consider that each have significant pros and cons. While Firefox has obvious advantages in the realm of a wide array of established plugins and higher-level standards compliance, Chrome outperforms it in terms of memory/CPU usage, internal design, and general performance. Opera bests both of them in terms of natively available developer debugging tools and pioneered several browser features/supports well before any other. Despite all of this, Internet Explorer is still likely the number one used browser based on OS bundling alone -- thankfully beyond its 6th iteration into the realm of web standards.

Be appreciative you missed the browser wars era and that we have such a wonderful selection of capable browsers this day on multiple devices!

Saturday, June 16, 2012

true, I wonder if anyone is going to make any other browser rather then the 5 we already have

Saturday, June 16, 2012

Grega wrote : I'm with Legendry. FireFox for the win.

Sunday, June 17, 2012

Zeth wrote : Having a bias towards a single browser is rather foolhardy when you consider that each have significant pros and cons.

of course you can. Its called preference or opinion. There are no objective judging scenarios unless it's the first time you see something and you are given multiple different versions of that thing to mess with.

But after you have used all 3 you are already based. You already prefer one over the other based on your personal opinion.

We are human (emotional), not vulcan(logical).

Sunday, June 17, 2012

of course you can. Its called preference or opinion. There are no objective judging scenarios unless it's the first time you see something and you are given multiple different versions of that thing to mess with.

Aside from inciting conflict via popularity wars, what do you believe is the purpose to these "opinions"? I've spent my entire life analyzing the world around me in a purely unbiased manner unaffected by any manner of "personal preference". It doesn't take a philosopher to realize that bias is one of the very basis of human conflict. It's existence is counter-intuitive and detrimental on a whole.

But after you have used all 3 you are already bIased. You already prefer one over the other based on your personal opinion.

That is incorrect. I have used almost a dozen browsers and I have no desire to use one over another. Although many have similar goals, each perform and achieve those goals in different manners and, thus, have their own usage cases for efficiency and practicality in different tasks.

We are human (emotional), not vulcan(logical).

Sci-fi cliches and generalizations aside, that's quite obviously a fundamental complication that needs addressing in some manner or another.

Sunday, June 17, 2012

Zeth wrote :

of course you can. Its called preference or opinion. There are no objective judging scenarios unless it's the first time you see something and you are given multiple different versions of that thing to mess with.

Aside from inciting conflict via popularity wars, what do you believe is the purpose to these "opinions"? I've spent my entire life analyzing the world around me in a purely unbiased manner unaffected by any manner of "personal preference". It doesn't take a philosopher to realize that bias is one of the very basis of human conflict. It's existence is counter-intuitive and detrimental on a whole.

But after you have used all 3 you are already bIased. You already prefer one over the other based on your personal opinion.

That is incorrect. I have used almost a dozen browsers and I have no desire to use one over another. Although many have similar goals, each perform and achieve those goals in different manners and, thus, have their own usage cases for efficiency and practicality in different tasks.

We are human (emotional), not vulcan(logical).

Sci-fi cliches and generalizations aside, that's quite obviously a fundamental complication that needs addressing in some manner or another.

Opinion is what makes us unique. It causes conflict, because we are narrow sighted. If it wasn't for that little problem in our psychology, Opinion would just be there for creating uniqueness between multiple people. Without that narrow sighted outlook on the world, popularity wars are not possible.

You said you have used multiple browsers and don't prefer one over another. Does that mean that you have all of them installed and are using equally, or are you just going with one that you think suits your needs most based on its specifications?

As for the sci-fi thing. It kind of fit. Humans are emotional creatures. The more people you put in one place the more their emotions start to go wild. that's why a single individual is usually smart and calm (provided he doesn't have a psychological motive to behave differently), while masses are largely ignorant and quick to jump the gun.

But if everyone starts thinking and acting only logically and throw emotions out the window, then we become like zombies, living in never ending routines. Emotions are what create ambitions, give us drive, and make us unique.

Sunday, June 17, 2012

Inter net explorer 9 is awesome

but Brad does has a point , altho chrome handles more tabs easily with out taxing performance it does some times crash the flash player and so , every browser has its pros and cons , I use all 4 browsers for that reason

Sunday, June 17, 2012

Opinion is what makes us unique. It causes conflict, because we are narrow sighted. If it wasn't for that little problem in our psychology, Opinion would just be there for creating uniqueness between multiple people. Without that narrow sighted outlook on the world, popularity wars are not possible.

Uniquity (in terms of true distinguishing quality) is not created by something as shallow as perception. Rather ironically, fabrics of viewpoint are what contrive the individual as being similar. In contrast to this, it is the abstract application and relationship of knowledge that encompass what one might truly classify as what sets us apart.

You said you have used multiple browsers and don't prefer one over another. Does that mean that you have all of them installed and are using equally, or are you just going with one that you think suits your needs most based on its specifications?

The latter, but it's not a matter of "what I think". It's a scientific process of measurement and identification of qualities that determines which particular software is used for a particular job. Even if one isn't used in a particular situation, this hardly means that it's any less preferred on a personal level or less capable in a general sense.

As for the sci-fi thing. It kind of fit. Humans are emotional creatures. The more people you put in one place the more their emotions start to go wild. that's why a single individual is usually smart and calm (provided he doesn't have a psychological motive to behave differently), while masses are largely ignorant and quick to jump the gun.

But if everyone starts thinking and acting only logically and throw emotions out the window, then we become like zombies, living in never ending routines. Emotions are what create ambitions, give us drive, and make us unique.

What you are describing is precisely the notion I suggested you discard -- commonplace literary interpretation and assumption often projected through novels, anime, and entertainment mediums. It is preposterous to assume such a linear, singular result to discarding a single flaw in design.

One can have precision, non-clouded, non-biased form of thought without being mindless and void of emotion altogether. You act as though alteration of a single rudimentary shared (often idolized) concept would result in a drastic design change in all areas of presentation.

Like any device (philosophical or material), progression comes from identifying and improving upon core designs. One can not only retain, but actually enhance, the emotions of happiness, comradery, and general empathy by removing petty afflictions that plague the idea that is "a matter of opinion".

Sunday, June 17, 2012

najeeb wrote : Inter net explorer 9 is awesome

but Brad does has a point , altho chrome handles more tabs easily with out taxing performance it does some times crash the flash player and so , every browser has its pros and cons , I use all 4 browsers for that reason

I use firefox for games, chrome for just plain browsering, and when you think about, chrome does have flash player chrashes a lot!!!
*laughing out loud*

Friday, June 22, 2012

Zeth wrote : What you are describing is precisely the notion I suggested you discard -- commonplace literary interpretation and assumption often projected through novels, anime, and entertainment mediums. It is preposterous to assume such a linear, singular result to discarding a single flaw in design.

One can have precision, non-clouded, non-biased form of thought without being mindless and void of emotion altogether. You act as though alteration of a single rudimentary shared (often idolized) concept would result in a drastic design change in all areas of presentation.

The Star Trek reference was of a sarcastic nature. I was not implaying that you'd actually be as bland and monotone as the Vulcans if you only saw logically.

But if everything was only seen in a logical manner, then the world would be pretty boring. With everyone thinking with the same logic, everyone would come to the same conclusions. There would be very little to no diversity within people. that's what feelings are for. To create that diversity. And opinions are created from those feelings.

Now I use firefox, because of its customization ability and pluggins. I don't really care about the performance hit compared to chrome because my system can easily handle it.

Is that a logical outlook on things? No. Its opinion. I don't care about the performance hit, while someone else (with a machine that can handle it as well or better as mine) will be out to save as much resources as possible for what ever reason.

Some people use chrome just because of the integration with all of Googles apps and don't really think twice about performance or anything like that.

But its all opinions, based on what is expected and needed by the person, rather than what statistics show.

Zeth wrote : Like any device (philosophical or material), progression comes from identifying and improving upon core designs. One can not only retain, but actually enhance, the emotions of happiness, comradery, and general empathy by removing petty afflictions that plague the idea that is "a matter of opinion".

Yes that is correct. If you are a developer. But in this case you need to be looking though the eyes of the user. And the 2 views are on the opposite sides of the spectrum.

Users mostly don't look to much at behind the scenes stuff, because they don't understand it. The exception are people who know how it works in the BG. So people with higher knowledge of computers and progams than your average user. But in the case of this discussion those people are the exceptions since they are greatly outnumbered by the group who doesn't know what they know.