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Earth Special Forces only has top tier characters

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Domo-Kun View user's profile Send private message

Reply with quote Sunday, October 10, 2010

legendaryss4 wrote :

RealDeal wrote : don't insult an Earth Special Forces user

they are supposed to be the most serious vones of Dragon Ball Z fans :*laughing out loud*: :*laughing out loud*: :*laughing out loud*: :*laughing out loud*:

I am just saying Earth Special Forces and the users are just too serious
no jokes nothing even the forums are like a high security zone Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes



this is a ZEQ2 forum Fuuuck Earth Special Forces and their Bittch a$$ team.

Real mature of you. Rolling Eyes

Grega Perpetual Traveler View user's profile Send private message

Reply with quote Sunday, October 10, 2010

legendaryss4 wrote : I was saying kid to esfer.

Plus you lot are only putting in TOP TIER CHARACTERS where is Piccolo ? krillin? Tenshinhan? Yamucha?



Not in your first post. You were counting characters and you said

DR GERO , KID ,ZARBON



Now Krillin is ingame, Yamucha is nearly a Goku clone with less attacks, Tenshinhan was accepted as a community project. If the community provided the model, sounds, animations for the model and sprites, then we would put him ingame. The communiuty failed ad creating a single fully working model with custom animations since 2005, so Tenshinhan doesn't get in.

Unless you want to make a model yourself. The offer still stands. If you create Tenshinhan, Yamucha and Chautzu, we can have him in as a buddy character. But it needs to be Earth Special Forces quality.

Laguna|DaGGeR View user's profile Send private message

Reply with quote Sunday, October 10, 2010

*laughing out loud* he called the Earth Special Forces team stakins and you still answerin him grega

RealDeal View user's profile Send private message

Reply with quote Sunday, October 10, 2010

yup Earth Special Forces users show maturirty Arrow Arrow

ESFER25 View user's profile Send private message

Reply with quote Sunday, October 10, 2010

He's a nice person and friendly unlike legendaryss4, a fearsome creature and an old man Razz

LegendarySS4 View user's profile Send private message

Reply with quote Sunday, October 10, 2010

I tell my Older brother to make the characters.

Domo-Kun View user's profile Send private message

Reply with quote Sunday, October 10, 2010

legendaryss4 wrote : I tell my Older brother to make the characters.

And your telling us that because.......

Grega Perpetual Traveler View user's profile Send private message

Reply with quote Monday, October 11, 2010

legendaryss4 wrote : I tell my Older brother to make the characters.



If you think he can pull off model and animations on pair with the current Earth Special Forces models, then start another project Tenshinhan thread on the Earth Special Forces forum. heck probably get some help from at least a few dev members on how we do stuff. Though mind you while the devs probably will help, they won't be doing the work but rather play as advisers.

najeeb My Sir View user's profile Send private message

Reply with quote Monday, October 11, 2010

sorry to say Earth Special Forces team but I see it as a excuse for not to work on those left characters

ESFER25 View user's profile Send private message

Reply with quote Monday, October 11, 2010

Grega wrote : Now Krillin is ingame, Yamucha is nearly a Goku clone with less attacks.



Krillin is ingame and Yamucha isn't? Krillin attacks are Kamehameha and Kienzan, Yamucha has Kamehameha, Wolf fang fist, sokidan and he looks cool D:

Zeth The Admin View user's profile Send private message

Reply with quote Monday, October 11, 2010

If you think he can pull off model and animations on pair with the current Earth Special Forces models, then start another project Tenshinhan thread on the Earth Special Forces forum. heck probably get some help from at least a few dev members on how we do stuff. Though mind you while the devs probably will help, they won't be doing the work but rather play as advisers.


Wait, I thought this was discouraged and not really probable to do? Last time I spoke to Darktooth, he was explaining to me how the current quality and design setup for the next generation Earth Special Forces models was so incredibly complex and malformed that no real fan would be able to match it and that only he and one other person knew how to set everything up properly.

Has this changed, Grega?

LegendarySS4 View user's profile Send private message

Reply with quote Monday, October 11, 2010

Grega wrote :

legendaryss4 wrote : I was saying kid to esfer.

Plus you lot are only putting in TOP TIER CHARACTERS where is Piccolo ? krillin? Tenshinhan? Yamucha?



Not in your first post. You were counting characters and you said

DR GERO , KID ,ZARBON



Now Krillin is ingame, Yamucha is nearly a Goku clone with less attacks, Tenshinhan was accepted as a community project. If the community provided the model, sounds, animations for the model and sprites, then we would put him ingame. The communiuty failed ad creating a single fully working model with custom animations since 2005, so Tenshinhan doesn't get in.

Unless you want to make a model yourself. The offer still stands. If you create Tenshinhan, Yamucha and Chautzu, we can have him in as a buddy character. But it needs to be Earth Special Forces quality.



What you just said was "Yamucha is nearly as a Goku clone with less attacks" I just couldn't stop laughing . ARE YOU lacking? I think you don't watch the anime after what you said.

So if Yamucha is a student of roshi this is an excuse for not doing these characters.

Domo-Kun View user's profile Send private message

Reply with quote Monday, October 11, 2010

legendaryss4 wrote :

Grega wrote :

legendaryss4 wrote : I was saying kid to esfer.

Plus you lot are only putting in TOP TIER CHARACTERS where is Piccolo ? krillin? Tenshinhan? Yamucha?



Not in your first post. You were counting characters and you said

DR GERO , KID ,ZARBON



Now Krillin is ingame, Yamucha is nearly a Goku clone with less attacks, Tenshinhan was accepted as a community project. If the community provided the model, sounds, animations for the model and sprites, then we would put him ingame. The communiuty failed ad creating a single fully working model with custom animations since 2005, so Tenshinhan doesn't get in.

Unless you want to make a model yourself. The offer still stands. If you create Tenshinhan, Yamucha and Chautzu, we can have him in as a buddy character. But it needs to be Earth Special Forces quality.



What you just said was "Yamucha is nearly as a Goku clone with less attacks" I just couldn't stop laughing . ARE YOU lacking? I think you don't watch the anime after what you said.

So if Yamucha is a student of roshi this is an excuse for not doing these characters.

I'm starting to think that YOUR lacking. Grega gave you your slam answers even though your being an douche and yet you still continue to insult him. If you want Yamucha so much then make him yourself.

Domo-Kun View user's profile Send private message

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Laguna|DaGGeR View user's profile Send private message

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legendaryss4 for now on I offizial tell the forum you're the biggest ill-mannered buffoon I know !

grega is helping you and you still tell him bad words like ill-mannered buffoon and others do the forum a favour and tell grega you'll sorry before I get mad

najeeb My Sir View user's profile Send private message

Reply with quote Monday, October 11, 2010

legendrys point is right , but his way of expresing is not right , so legendry Super Saiyan 4 show theh devs some respect!!!!

LegendarySS4 View user's profile Send private message

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Grega Perpetual Traveler View user's profile Send private message

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legendaryss4 wrote : [So if Yamucha is a student of roshi this is an excuse for not doing these characters.



You are missing the bigger picture. In the series they may be 2 different characters. But gameplay whise, he's a Goku model with a different head, the rest is identical. His attacks are (Earth Special Forces related) kiblasts, generic beam ball/ kamehameha and a downgraded version of the Kame torpedo where he can only shoot one at a time instead of multiple like Goku. He also lacks transformations.

he's as much of a Goku clone as Goten, only that Goten can transform. As I said. If you want to resurrect Project Tenshinhan go ahead and add Yamucha to the Tenshinhan character as a buddy transformation. But he's lacking as a stand alone character.

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Reply with quote Monday, October 11, 2010

Grega wrote :

legendaryss4 wrote : [So if Yamucha is a student of roshi this is an excuse for not doing these characters.

You are missing the bigger picture. In the series they may be 2 different characters. But gameplay whise, he's a Goku model with a different head, the rest is identical. His attacks are (Earth Special Forces related) kiblasts, generic beam ball/ kamehameha and a downgraded version of the Kame torpedo.



You miss wolf fang fist and sokidan.

EDIT: najeeb, that controlable ball from 2008 movie, isn't from that movie, the first time he used it, it was in the last Dragon Ball tournament.

najeeb My Sir View user's profile Send private message

Reply with quote Monday, October 11, 2010

no ofence to the team or anything but , not adding a character because it has no transformation or less attacks is a intellectually lacking excuse for not working on new characters ,

1 kiballasts
2: ki beam / ball
3 kamehameha

are enough for a character

and yumcha has

1 kiballasts
2: ki beam / ball
3 kamehameha
4: wolfandg fist
5: also that controlable ki balst of his shown in special avi of 2008 ,
6: his extralarge spirite bomb ( large only in name *laughing out loud* )

same for Gotenks , he has a varity of attacks ,

Grega Perpetual Traveler View user's profile Send private message

Reply with quote Monday, October 11, 2010

najeeb wrote : no ofence to the team or anything but , not adding a character because it has no transformation or less attacks is a intellectually lacking excuse for not working on new characters ,

1 kiballasts
2: ki beam / ball
3 kamehameha

are enough for a character

and yumcha has

1 kiballasts
2: ki beam / ball
3 kamehameha
4: wolfandg fist
5: also that controlable ki balst of his shown in special avi of 2008 ,
6: his extralarge spirite bomb ( large only in name *laughing out loud* )

same for Gotenks , he has a varity of attacks ,



Wolf fang fist is not an attack. Its a mêlée technique, that's similar to what Goku has for his Tier 1 special. Or rather what we gave him.

With the lockon system EVERY character has a controlable Kiblast to a degree (though I thought we made it clear that we will not be adding ANY movie content. The 2008 special is a movie and thus excluded), his spirit ball (yes its spirit ball and not a Spirit Bomb) is exactly the same as Gokus Kame Torpedos. at least game mechanic whise.

@Zeth no it hasn't changed. And I'm sure that if someone would be up for it DT would be happy to explain how he sets the animations up. He pretty much told everyone who has force pit access how its done in a thread. But you have to remember. Project Tenshinhan and Project Gotenks were agreed upon long before there even was an Earth Special Forces Open Beta. Project Tenshinhan got the okay at the end of 2004 and project Gotenks was OKd in 2005 under the condition that Tenshinhan be finished first. And it's not that they couldn't do it. They finished the Tenshinhan model and started animating it. But then they just said "love it" and never continued. It was nothing but laziness, while whining at the devs about lack of updates which I find is quite ironic.

@Najeeb Our modellers are not even done with our current rouster. If you really believe that it's that simple then be my guest and make the model. On the other hand, where the modellers from the dev team have made all characters and are updating them AGAIN, the community could not finish a single model in over 6 years. So just maybe we are not the ones in need of an excuse for this one.

najeeb My Sir View user's profile Send private message

Reply with quote Monday, October 11, 2010

the community is not responsible for that , altough thhere are some people in the community like d2 who are upoto sv standards of modeling

Grega Perpetual Traveler View user's profile Send private message

Reply with quote Tuesday, October 12, 2010

najeeb wrote : the community is not responsible for that , altough thhere are some people in the community like d2 who are upoto sv standards of modeling


This was all before SV joined the staff.

Again the model was made, and it was on pair with the open beta models. Animations were being made and they were good, but then they just stopped. So yes the community is responsible for that.

LegendarySS4 View user's profile Send private message

Reply with quote Thursday, October 28, 2010

Okay sorry for the thread revival but could you please tell me this "Buddy Transformation"?

Grega Perpetual Traveler View user's profile Send private message

Reply with quote Sunday, October 31, 2010

legendaryss4 wrote : Okay sorry for the thread revival but could you please tell me this "Buddy Transformation"?



Its simple. Ginyu has no transformations, so to counter that, we give him his entire unit as a transformation. Instead of transforming into a new form, you can simply cal out a member of the unit to fight along side you. You can also switch into that member and so on.

Buddies are unlocked like standard transformations. Get enough power level and you'll unlock Guldo, get enough for Jeice, Burter and Recoome and you'll unlock them.

Simple as that. Buddies don't boost your power level like normal transformations do, but if you die with your buddy out, you switch to the buddy and start controlling him instead. So generally the buddy transformations will have he most HP of all the characters, since you have to calculate your buddys HP and your own. But of course you both can be killed at the same time, which means you don't switch ^^

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