ZEQ2 Lite

Tuesday, March 16, 2010

okay guys, I've been browsing a bit through the forums and I've noticed something.

Everyone want to help the project but most of you are failing miserably no offense :p

Be realistic, there won't be a :

ZEQ2 reloaded
ZEQ2 best beta
Zeq3

instead of all trying to create addons like Super Mega Ultra Mega Hyper Xtreme (times two) xigor or who knows what, and fanmade projects that are doomed in the beginning. Try to create a team and focus on let's say one model (Dragon Ball/Dragon Ball Z) that has not been made yet , like Trl did with niels on the chiatzu.

If you all try to make seperatly addons who are most of the time just cut and copy and paint works we will get nowhere.

so create a team, try to make one model that hasn't been made like for example cell. I don't think that exist yet. Work very concentrated on it, for a few months so that the result pleases the devs and the model might be implemented in the official version. and then move on to the next one. Don't try to make 50 diff models in a week and especially no gt or April Fools ones.

Cause the way people are doing things now does not give any results.

Some exceptions of course like Baldwin with his huge progress on the map and Buksna with his kami palace.

Tuesday, March 16, 2010

I concur.

And I strongly urge anyone to follow this motion.

Tuesday, March 16, 2010

Since when will anyone which such sensible advice is aimed at, actually listen to what they're told? I'm yet to see it.

Tuesday, March 16, 2010

As much as I appreciate the post, I doubt the majority of this community is smart enough to understand what you said.

Tuesday, March 16, 2010

problem with this community is that they don't read so I doubt they'll have problems with understanding

Tuesday, March 16, 2010

The only thing a large part of the community is going to see is this :

domitjen wrote : okay guys, I've been browsing a bit through the forums and I've noticed something.



there will be a :

ZEQ2 reloaded
ZEQ2 best beta
Zeq3

all try to create addons like Super Mega Ultra Mega Hyper Xtreme (times two) xigor and fanmade projects that are in the beginning. Try to create a team and focus on let's say fifty different model (Dragon Ball GT/Dragon Ball April Fools) that has not been made yet , like najeeb did with best beta on the awesome cool epic win stuff.

you all should try to make addons who are most of the time just cut and copy and paint works we will get awesome results!

so create a disaster, try to make fifty models that have been made like for example Vegeta. I think that exist yet. don't Work very concentrated on it, for a few months so that the result does not pleases the devs and the model will not be implemented in the official version. and then give up on to the next one. try to make 50 diff models in a week and especially no Dragonball Z or Dragonball ones.

Cause the way people are doing things now give awesome results.

Some exceptions of course like najeeb with his huge progress on the best beta and Robzombie with his amazing model edits.

Tuesday, March 16, 2010

so you changed last sentence

Tuesday, March 16, 2010

TheXenon wrote : The only thing a large part of the community is going to see is this :

domitjen wrote : okay guys, I've been browsing a bit through the forums and I've noticed something.



there will be a :

ZEQ2 reloaded
ZEQ2 best beta
Zeq3

all try to create addons like Super Mega Ultra Mega Hyper Xtreme (times two) xigor and fanmade projects that are in the beginning. Try to create a team and focus on let's say fifty different model (Dragon Ball GT/Dragon Ball April Fools) that has not been made yet , like najeeb did with best beta on the awesome cool epic win stuff.

you all should try to make addons who are most of the time just cut and copy and paint works we will get awesome results!

so create a disaster, try to make fifty models that have been made like for example Vegeta. I think that exist yet. don't Work very concentrated on it, for a few months so that the result does not pleases the devs and the model will not be implemented in the official version. and then give up on to the next one. try to make 50 diff models in a week and especially no Dragonball Z or Dragonball ones.

Cause the way people are doing things now give awesome results.

Some exceptions of course like najeeb with his huge progress on the best beta and Robzombie with his amazing model edits.

why did you change Buksna to robzombie?:p

Tuesday, March 16, 2010

Domitjen that was very well said and I did read the whole thing

Tuesday, March 16, 2010

edited.

Tuesday, March 16, 2010

brendon wrote : Domitjen that was very well said and I did read the whole thing

thanks

Brad would say and he will probably say that any efford is better then none, which is true. But I honestly think that we aren't going to get anywhere with 100 ssj12Gokutrunkvegetan addons with self made attacks and stuff which will only be used on Hamachi addon servers where the ping is skyhigh.

Tuesday, March 16, 2010

TheXenon wrote :

Buksna wrote : so you changed last sentence

Ugh, are you a part of the community who fails to be literate? Read the whole thing and then compare it to Domi's one.

I know that...if you read my first and second post you'll get it...and I put smile at the end just to point on that...

Tuesday, March 16, 2010

I must give my respect to those that have never ever touched a modeling program before or used Photoshop extensively until they became aware of ZEQ2-Lite, enjoyed the game that much, and started editing ZEQ2-Lite assets.

Now quickly get out of the phase of editing models and make your own if you want to improve really, really quickly, as well as earn even more respect within the community

If you can't understand the various processes involved in making a character, or making a map, after researching and doing tutorials, then you got 2 options. Keep at it until it *clicks*, or give up. Some people just cannot model now matter how much help and advice you give them, but time, patience, determination and effort can help a lot in doing whatever it is you want to do.

Tuesday, March 16, 2010

I don't see the point in editing models anyway. Wouldn't you feel better and more proud of yourself if you fully created something yourself? I know I would.

When I first started to learn how to mod, I refused to learn how to edit models because I didn't want to destroy someone else's work.

It just disappoints me when I see people destroying people's work.. take Ramunas' Vegeta for example. How many times has it been edited and destroyed? What's even worse is that the people who are responsible for the edits take pride in "their" work. Yikes.

Tuesday, March 16, 2010

When I first got into modding circa 2001, I used to do model edits to Bid For Power characters. This was very early days

BUT! I never posted screenshots or uploaded my edits, because it was more of a testing grounds for understanding how things work for me.

It was only until I created my own model from scratch that I posted something, joining forums and joining a team of fellow Bid For Power addon pack editors

So ... editing can be useful in understanding the technical details of how everything works under the hood and for your own research, but showing it off because you think its cool or gives *laughing out loud*, best keep it to yourself

Tuesday, March 16, 2010

TRL wrote : I concur.

And I strongly urge anyone to follow this motion.

trl this was my problem I guess I took it out on the wrong person so you are no longer on my radar from here on out I will help you guys by spreading this as much as I can even if I have disrespect other projects to do it *laughing out loud*

Tuesday, March 16, 2010

domitjen wrote : okay guys, I've been browsing a bit through the forums and I've noticed something.

Everyone want to help the project but most of you are failing miserably no offense :p

Be realistic, there won't be a :

ZEQ2 reloaded
ZEQ2 best beta
Zeq3

instead of all trying to create addons like Super Mega Ultra Mega Hyper Xtreme (times two) xigor or who knows what, and fanmade projects that are doomed in the beginning. Try to create a team and focus on let's say one model (Dragon Ball/Dragon Ball Z) that has not been made yet , like Trl did with niels on the chiatzu.

If you all try to make seperatly addons who are most of the time just cut and copy and paint works we will get nowhere.

so create a team, try to make one model that hasn't been made like for example cell. I don't think that exist yet. Work very concentrated on it, for a few months so that the result pleases the devs and the model might be implemented in the official version. and then move on to the next one. Don't try to make 50 diff models in a week and especially no gt or April Fools ones.

Cause the way people are doing things now does not give any results.

Some exceptions of course like Baldwin with his huge progress on the map and Buksna with his kami palace.

well said first of all dom. to be honest I'm trying to learn maps since I'm good at art and in my spare time for extra money I help build buildings in the real world. I understand what you mean which is why I bash folks on here so much me and trl have gone back in forth for a while now but he's not the problem I just enjoy bothering him sometimes. anyways this post of yours should go out to everyone learning or folks who already release projects because it's about time someone with status on here spoke up

Tuesday, March 16, 2010

You've been here for what... 5 days?

And you're talking about it's about time?

Please elaborate on your real life building making expertise.

Tuesday, March 16, 2010

TRL wrote : You've been here for what... 5 days?

And you're talking about it's about time?

Please elaborate on your real life building making expertise.

*laughing out loud* I mean construction I'm not saying I do it myself but I have been doing this since I was 12 I know how much hard work goes into making homes from the ground up first hand its how I pay my way threw school and take care of myself till I get my criminal justice degree

I say it's about time because I can tell from the post that this issue has went on for a long time that's all
I'm just trying to help spread the word if you don't want me to then I won't step on anyones toes

Tuesday, March 16, 2010

wreckdirect wrote :

TRL wrote : You've been here for what... 5 days?

And you're talking about it's about time?

Please elaborate on your real life building making expertise.

*laughing out loud* I mean construction I'm not saying I do it myself but I have been doing this since I was 12 I know how much hard work goes into making homes from the ground up first hand its how I pay my way threw school and take care of myself till I get my criminal justice degree

I say it's about time because I can tell from the post that this issue has went on for a long time that's all
I'm just trying to help spread the word if you don't want me to then I won't step on anyones toes

So you've been doing this for about a week or two?

Tuesday, March 16, 2010

Damaera wrote :

wreckdirect wrote :

TRL wrote : You've been here for what... 5 days?

And you're talking about it's about time?

Please elaborate on your real life building making expertise.

*laughing out loud* I mean construction I'm not saying I do it myself but I have been doing this since I was 12 I know how much hard work goes into making homes from the ground up first hand its how I pay my way threw school and take care of myself till I get my criminal justice degree

I say it's about time because I can tell from the post that this issue has went on for a long time that's all
I'm just trying to help spread the word if you don't want me to then I won't step on anyones toes

So you've been doing this for about a week or two?

doing what exactly ?

the construction I've done since 12 I was just saying its kind of like coding or mods its takes time and hardwork and once you master the basics then you can get creative.

I have no work to show I'm a uninformed participator at using these programs and the map I tried looked horrible and offended the real good map makers I'm still learning

Tuesday, March 16, 2010

I'm so with the idea of getting teams together and creating "as a team" one thing at a time instead of creating multiple works, addons,and edits being much more time consuming and without as good results ((sometimes))

I do admit some people in this forum do work alone and produce great results that could eventually or even now help ZEQ2 but the majority strays off to there own little world and does what they see fit, which might not benefit the beta as soon/as much.

Wednesday, March 17, 2010

Domi lets hope that a bunch of people will have the brains to comprehend this and make a organized team so we can actually see progress.

Wednesday, March 17, 2010

domitjen wrote : okay guys, I've been browsing a bit through the forums and I've noticed something.

Everyone want to help the project but most of you are failing miserably no offense :p

Be realistic, there won't be a :

ZEQ2 reloaded
ZEQ2 best beta
Zeq3

instead of all trying to create addons like Super Mega Ultra Mega Hyper Xtreme (times two) xigor or who knows what, and fanmade projects that are doomed in the beginning. Try to create a team and focus on let's say one model (Dragon Ball/Dragon Ball Z) that has not been made yet , like Trl did with niels on the chiatzu.

If you all try to make seperatly addons who are most of the time just cut and copy and paint works we will get nowhere.

so create a team, try to make one model that hasn't been made like for example cell. I don't think that exist yet. Work very concentrated on it, for a few months so that the result pleases the devs and the model might be implemented in the official version. and then move on to the next one. Don't try to make 50 diff models in a week and especially no gt or April Fools ones.

Cause the way people are doing things now does not give any results.

Some exceptions of course like Baldwin with his huge progress on the map and Buksna with his kami palace.

reloaded and zeq3 are real, reloaded is operational. I got 2 members left but I won't take the names

Wednesday, March 17, 2010

Buksna wrote :

TheXenon wrote :

Buksna wrote : so you changed last sentence

Ugh, are you a part of the community who fails to be literate? Read the whole thing and then compare it to Domi's one.

I know that...if you read my first and second post you'll get it...and I put smile at the end just to point on that...

Ohhhhhhh! Now I get it! Sorry haha.