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Shenku
RiO Incarnate
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Monday, May 09, 2011
Figured it's about time for an official thread for this project so I can start getting feedback as I plan on contributing these when I'm done with them.
The basic plan here is to finish up Goten and Trunks, then make Gotenks. I'm basically finished with rigging Goten, and Trunks is almost finished, though something is still off with his face and hair but I can't figure out what... As soon as I finish up Trunks, I'll begin on Gotenks, and start animating.
TRL, if you could maybe do some draw-overs to help me make them as accurate as possible, that would be appreciated, and that goes for anyone else too. I want as much feedback as possible to make these models as accurate as can be.
Note: Textures are still unfinished...
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RoganX
Classy
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Tuesday, May 10, 2011
I'm getting the idea that the proportions aren't correct everywhere. Goten looks quite okay, but Trunks head is a bit to big for his body. At least, that's what pops out looking at it for a sec.
Does look great though, keep it up.
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ssj6vegeta
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Tuesday, May 10, 2011
yeah the runks head is too big and gotens face looks like lemming ball z(I know the textures aren't finished) but once someone does a drawover it will be much better but great start
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Surge
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Tuesday, May 10, 2011
I hope they will make them do fusion so it will turn into Gotenks
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mcgrass
Beta Trapezoid
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Tuesday, May 10, 2011
Goten looks a bit lacking... but it's good ^^
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suckapunch
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Tuesday, May 10, 2011
Trunks isn't really that much bigger than Gotenks...and Trunks arms are a little bit more chubby
EDIT: sorry the whole entire Trunks needs to be a little chubbier and smaller
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Dokumas
Jamaicabronx
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Tuesday, May 10, 2011
Shenku this looks very promising and your known to release your work. I like it Shenku Please keep up the good work
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Shenku
RiO Incarnate
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Tuesday, May 10, 2011
suckapunch wrote : Trunks isn't really that much bigger than Gotenks...
That's not exactly the same scale for the two to be compared at, the renders were done separately, and I used Goten's body as a base for when I made Trunks, so they should be roughly the same height...
Surge wrote : I hope they will make them do fusion so it will turn into Gotenks
That's the plan, yes.
And yes, I know it looks like Goten doesn't have a nose, but that's an issue with 3ds Max's cel-shading renderer. The nose is actually there, there's just no outline or sufficient shading being rendered for it for some reason.
Anyways, thanks for the input guys, I'll see about making some adjustments.
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TRL
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Tuesday, May 10, 2011
For the face and hair of Goten, I refer you to Mastap's Goten thread in which I made a detailed front and side ref/drawover for his head. That should really help you a lot.
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Djosama
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Tuesday, May 10, 2011
Velly Nize
I'm pretty sure height can be fixed with scaling so I won't bother with that. Also what we all know is that for kids these guys are muscular so yeah you're Trunks could lift a few weights .
I think the main thing throwing their looks off is their size and their headshaps. The actual shapes are more pointed and not as tall or long actually. I think if you just point out the jaws and squish in the heads vertically, that will help. You can also see where their hairs are a little off. I think trunk's bangs are a bit incorrectly shaped and gotens hair is not thick enough. like long and flimsy. Other than color there is nothing left to say but good stuff.
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suckapunch
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Tuesday, May 10, 2011
Djosama wrote : Velly Nize
I'm pretty sure height can be fixed with scaling so I won't bother with that. Also what we all know is that for kids these guys are muscular so yeah you're Trunks could lift a few weights .
I think the main thing throwing their looks off is their size and their headshaps. The actual shapes are more pointed and not as tall or long actually. I think if you just point out the jaws and squish in the heads vertically, that will help.
even though these kids are strong... in the anime they don't even have visible biceps or abs or anything
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Shenku
RiO Incarnate
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Tuesday, May 10, 2011
suckapunch wrote : Djosama wrote : Velly Nize
I'm pretty sure height can be fixed with scaling so I won't bother with that. Also what we all know is that for kids these guys are muscular so yeah you're Trunks could lift a few weights .
I think the main thing throwing their looks off is their size and their headshaps. The actual shapes are more pointed and not as tall or long actually. I think if you just point out the jaws and squish in the heads vertically, that will help.
even though these kids are strong... in the anime they don't even have visible biceps or abs or anything
Indeed, their muscles are not as pronounced as some seem to think they are. Also, please no refs from commercial games, they're usually inaccurate interpretations of the original.
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suckapunch
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Tuesday, May 10, 2011
Shenku wrote : suckapunch wrote : Djosama wrote : Velly Nize
I'm pretty sure height can be fixed with scaling so I won't bother with that. Also what we all know is that for kids these guys are muscular so yeah you're Trunks could lift a few weights .
I think the main thing throwing their looks off is their size and their headshaps. The actual shapes are more pointed and not as tall or long actually. I think if you just point out the jaws and squish in the heads vertically, that will help.
even though these kids are strong... in the anime they don't even have visible biceps or abs or anything
Indeed, their muscles are not as pronounced as some seem to think they are. Also, please no refs from commercial games, they're usually inaccurate interpretations of the original.
everyones eyes depends on their expression...if they're happy then they have these eyes.
if they are serious or angry they have these eyes.
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Djosama
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Tuesday, May 10, 2011
Shenku wrote : suckapunch wrote : Djosama wrote : Velly Nize
I'm pretty sure height can be fixed with scaling so I won't bother with that. Also what we all know is that for kids these guys are muscular so yeah you're Trunks could lift a few weights .
I think the main thing throwing their looks off is their size and their headshaps. The actual shapes are more pointed and not as tall or long actually. I think if you just point out the jaws and squish in the heads vertically, that will help.
even though these kids are strong... in the anime they don't even have visible biceps or abs or anything
Indeed, their muscles are not as pronounced as some seem to think they are. Also, please no refs from commercial games, they're usually inaccurate interpretations of the original.
oh okay ill edit that comment
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Leon
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Wednesday, May 11, 2011
the eyes when they are happy are like the ones when they are freaked out only the freaked out ones have small pupils
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Leon
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Wednesday, May 11, 2011
the eyes when they are happy are like the ones when they are freaked out only the freaked out ones have small pupils
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Shenku
RiO Incarnate
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Wednesday, May 11, 2011
I'm confused as to why you guys are talking about his eyes differing between expressions, but I've already made Goten's eyes animate-able from one expression to another for various expressions, with more possibly to be added later(And Trunks as well, though not all of his facial expressions are done yet)...
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mcgrass
Beta Trapezoid
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Wednesday, May 11, 2011
Shenku wrote : I'm confused as to why you guys are talking about his eyes differing between expressions, but I've already made Goten's eyes animate-able from one expression to another for various expressions, with more possibly to be added later(And Trunks as well, though not all of his facial expressions are done yet)...
Fix the nose *intense laughter* He still looks R3tard3d
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SAMCROSS
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Wednesday, May 11, 2011
Shenku wrote : I'm confused as to why you guys are talking about his eyes differing between expressions, but I've already made Goten's eyes animate-able from one expression to another for various expressions, with more possibly to be added later(And Trunks as well, though not all of his facial expressions are done yet)...
The body is good really ! But Goten's head still need some work, it's only a opinion
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mcgrass
Beta Trapezoid
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Wednesday, May 11, 2011
SAMCROSS wrote : Shenku wrote : I'm confused as to why you guys are talking about his eyes differing between expressions, but I've already made Goten's eyes animate-able from one expression to another for various expressions, with more possibly to be added later(And Trunks as well, though not all of his facial expressions are done yet)...
The body is good really ! But Goten's head still need some work, it's only a opinion
just the nose, if the nose is visible from front it will be good, believe me
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SAMCROSS
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Wednesday, May 11, 2011
mcgrass wrote : SAMCROSS wrote : Shenku wrote : I'm confused as to why you guys are talking about his eyes differing between expressions, but I've already made Goten's eyes animate-able from one expression to another for various expressions, with more possibly to be added later(And Trunks as well, though not all of his facial expressions are done yet)...
The body is good really ! But Goten's head still need some work, it's only a opinion
just the nose, if the nose is visible from front it will be good, believe me
Sure it would be better
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najeeb
My Sir
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Wednesday, May 11, 2011
the hairs proportions or incorrect ( resembles Saiyan after maths first Goku model )
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TRL
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Wednesday, May 11, 2011
I have to agree it needs work Shenku.
Here, try to replicate this exactly!
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Shenku
RiO Incarnate
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Wednesday, May 11, 2011
Actually, I had that one and referenced it a lot, but I was using this one when modeling...
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RoganX
Classy
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Wednesday, May 11, 2011
Maybe these help:
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