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Konan
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Sunday, August 28, 2011
http://ZEQ2.com/lite/forums/viewtopic.php?t=841
The problem is ATI s..
You can try homebrew drivers..if that not help than buy Nvidia Geforce.
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ESFER25
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Sunday, August 28, 2011
I have an ATI card and ZEQ2 lite, for example, runs great...
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Raging-Blast
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Sunday, August 28, 2011
"dislike Nvidia..Nvidia cards are strong, but need more cooler hahaha..everyone know that!"
That's what you said...
So, first you dislike Nvidia, then you dislike ATI...
what.
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najeeb
My Sir
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Monday, August 29, 2011
Raging-Blast wrote : "dislike Nvidia..Nvidia cards are strong, but need more cooler hahaha..everyone know that!"
That's what you said...
So, first you dislike Nvidia, then you dislike ATI...
what.
seriously when will you guys do research before you post something like that .... amd is known for their extreamly hot graphics cards and cpus , they always run hotter than nvidia or intel , the only card in the nvidia line up that was hot was a gtx480 at 94* max , but even on that if you crank up the fan it goes down to 68* at max , AND NO it is not loud , most reviews are wrong , they place the dba gun right out side of the casing , it snot like you're going to shove you're ear right into the casing ? we sit considerably far and most of us have head sets so we don't even notice ,see the 3D guru review on gtx480 , that's the only review that has the correct info on its noise levels , buddy don't argue on this one , first go , do research for weeks on 1 subject then talk about this with me , I have used over 10 nvidia & ATI/amd cards over the years , and I know what I am saying , I AM NO FAN BOY
EDIT : THIS WAS NOT DIRECTED TO RAGING BLAST , BUT TO THE PERSON WHO WAS QUOTED BY Raging Blast
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ESFER25
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Monday, August 29, 2011
I think you can't say a whole company is bad. It depends on the card
Anyway, somebody, make a nvidia vs amd thread because this is going way too offtopic.
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Laguna|DaGGeR
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Monday, August 29, 2011
I'm no fan boy but my friends all using ATI cards cause they are better
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ESFER25
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Monday, August 29, 2011
Laguna|DaGGeR wrote : I'm no fan boy but my friends all using ATI cards cause they are better You guys just can't stop it, right?
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najeeb
My Sir
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Monday, August 29, 2011
Laguna|DaGGeR wrote : I'm no fan boy but my friends all using ATI cards cause they are better
yes but I want you to give me solid evidence to support your claim for being "better: I'm not saying which company is better , I'm just posting some facts about the cards , and agreed , split it into a topic , but don't name it as , nvidia vs amd , that's not my intention , name it more like "computers and hardware"
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BlackhawkGT
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Monday, August 29, 2011
These "ATI/NVIDIA IS BETTER HURRR" only means that you're either a fan boy of those companies. These cards are simply even right now. GTX590 is as strong as a HD6990 as they are both 2 GPU's in one. The only thing that matters with ATI is the price, you get for what you pay. NVidia asks for money but if you buy one of their best cards you can get it's pretty much the same. Yet you can't say much about it as the graphic cards (ATI or NVidia) itself work better on some games. They're both good companies, so stop saying "ATI/NVidia is better".
Edit: Now please, create a other thread instead of going off-topic all the time.
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najeeb
My Sir
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Monday, August 29, 2011
BlackhawkGT wrote : These "ATI/NVIDIA IS BETTER HURRR" only means that you're either a fan boy of those companies. These cards are simply even right now. GTX590 is as strong as a HD6990 as they are both 2 GPU's in one. The only thing that matters with ATI is the price, you get for what you pay. NVidia asks for money but if you buy one of their best cards you can get it's pretty much the same. Yet you can't say much about it as the graphic cards (ATI or NVidia) itself work better on some games. They're both good companies, so stop saying "ATI/NVidia is better".
Edit: Now please, create a other thread instead of going off-topic all the time.
dude *laughing out loud* it was not about nvidia vs ATI , laguna started that with a post , and dude do you're research I'm saying it for the 100th time now , gtx590 surpassed hd6990 with new drivers in most of the benchmarks , yes fan boys always flame but I am not a fan boy , I spend weeks on thing and then decide keeping every thing in mind , no your theory is wrong , it's not the same.
Now guys lets stop comparing and talk about the upcoming technologies I can't wait for the kepler core
which is going to be used in nvidia gtx 6xxx series
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BlackhawkGT
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Monday, August 29, 2011
Benchmarks means nothing. The graphic cards are ment for gaming, not benchmarking all over the place. If you really want to compare, compare the FPS in GAMES. There's no difference in both these cards. It depends on HOW the game runs on the companies' card. Compare the Price difference, the voltage of the card AND how much fps it can handle on one of the thoughest games you can find.
Also, you still can't compare as they were not released at the same day or week. NVidia or ATI can still say: Oh hey, they are faster with the new card, let's try to make ours faster.
Just take a look, Just Cause 2 that FULLY supports ATI and leaves out NVidia.
http://media.bestofmicro.com/2/Z/286523/original/Just%20Cause%202%20Quad%20%282%29.png
Now check out Crysis 2 (the beta):
http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/video/geforce-gtx-590/21_crys2.png
Now you see, you can't compare these cards. Benchmarks doesn't say much as you can't even play the benchmark yourself. These cards are MENT for gaming, not benchmarks.
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ESFER25
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Monday, August 29, 2011
I can run crysis @ medium settings, 20 fps! Beat that! >:]
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BlackhawkGT
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Monday, August 29, 2011
ESFER25 wrote : I can run crysis @ medium settings, 20 fps! Beat that! >:]
I can run Crysis on 50/60 FPS+ on Ultra + 8x AA. :3 (Cheated a bit of much as I have a HD6970 >.>)
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Laguna|DaGGeR
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Monday, August 29, 2011
BlackhawkGT wrote : ESFER25 wrote : I can run crysis @ medium settings, 20 fps! Beat that! >:]
I can run Crysis on 50/60 FPS+ on Ultra + 8x AA. :3 (Cheated a bit of much as I have a HD6970 >.>) I got a HD 4500 and I can run crysis 2 on full grafik settings (ultra) and half maxed on crysis 1 and crysis warhead on 50-60 fps
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LegendarySS4
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Monday, August 29, 2011
And I have an Xbox and just plays Crysis 2 and doesn't have to worry about these hardware problems
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ESFER25
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Monday, August 29, 2011
LegendarySS4 wrote : And I have an Xbox and just plays Crysis 2 and doesn't have to worry about these hardware problems  Runs crysis 2 with low settings and unplayable frame drops :]
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LegendarySS4
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Monday, August 29, 2011
ESFER25 wrote : LegendarySS4 wrote : And I have an Xbox and just plays Crysis 2 and doesn't have to worry about these hardware problems  Runs crysis 2 with low settings and unplayable frame drops :]
Doesn't have to waste money on upgrading your pc 24/7
*Has a flame shield*
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ESFER25
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Monday, August 29, 2011
LegendarySS4 wrote : ESFER25 wrote : LegendarySS4 wrote : And I have an Xbox and just plays Crysis 2 and doesn't have to worry about these hardware problems  Runs crysis 2 with low settings and unplayable frame drops :]
Doesn't have to waste money on upgrading your pc 24/7
*Has a flame shield* A 2006 video card runs crysis 2 better than a xbox.
*has a mouse??*
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LegendarySS4
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Monday, August 29, 2011
ESFER25 wrote : LegendarySS4 wrote : ESFER25 wrote : LegendarySS4 wrote : And I have an Xbox and just plays Crysis 2 and doesn't have to worry about these hardware problems  Runs crysis 2 with low settings and unplayable frame drops :]
Doesn't have to waste money on upgrading your pc 24/7
*Has a flame shield* A 2006 video card runs crysis 2 better than a xbox.
*has a mouse??*
I know this console is restricted because of the lack of DX11, Latest Graphics card, etc...
But let's not start a Console vs Pc war
I'll be out-numbered
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ssj6vegeta
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Monday, August 29, 2011
I use nvidia getforce and it runs just fine for me
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najeeb
My Sir
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Monday, August 29, 2011
BlackhawkGT wrote : Benchmarks means nothing. The graphic cards are ment for gaming, not benchmarking all over the place. If you really want to compare, compare the FPS in GAMES. There's no difference in both these cards. It depends on HOW the game runs on the companies' card. Compare the Price difference, the voltage of the card AND how much fps it can handle on one of the thoughest games you can find.
Also, you still can't compare as they were not released at the same day or week. NVidia or ATI can still say: Oh hey, they are faster with the new card, let's try to make ours faster.
Just take a look, Just Cause 2 that FULLY supports ATI and leaves out NVidia.
http://media.bestofmicro.com/2/Z/286523/original/Just%20Cause%202%20Quad%20%282%29.png
Now check out Crysis 2 (the beta):
http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/video/geforce-gtx-590/21_crys2.png
Now you see, you can't compare these cards. Benchmarks doesn't say much as you can't even play the benchmark yourself. These cards are MENT for gaming, not benchmarks.
you still font get how graphics cards work , NO you are wrong on the part that they are the same , no they are different technologies , different architecture , different cores , there are games that have equal support for both the companies and both companies cards perform differently , please don't argue on this one , you are giving a intellectually lacking excuse for it , benchmarks means the most , proper ones that is , I have done many bench marks my self , and I can tell what card to get and what not to , why they are different and what makes them different
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Domo-Kun
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Monday, August 29, 2011
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator HD is the best GPU ever.
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BlackhawkGT
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Tuesday, August 30, 2011
najeeb wrote : BlackhawkGT wrote : Benchmarks means nothing. The graphic cards are ment for gaming, not benchmarking all over the place. If you really want to compare, compare the FPS in GAMES. There's no difference in both these cards. It depends on HOW the game runs on the companies' card. Compare the Price difference, the voltage of the card AND how much fps it can handle on one of the thoughest games you can find.
Also, you still can't compare as they were not released at the same day or week. NVidia or ATI can still say: Oh hey, they are faster with the new card, let's try to make ours faster.
Just take a look, Just Cause 2 that FULLY supports ATI and leaves out NVidia.
http://media.bestofmicro.com/2/Z/286523/original/Just%20Cause%202%20Quad%20%282%29.png
Now check out Crysis 2 (the beta):
http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/video/geforce-gtx-590/21_crys2.png
Now you see, you can't compare these cards. Benchmarks doesn't say much as you can't even play the benchmark yourself. These cards are MENT for gaming, not benchmarks.
you still font get how graphics cards work , NO you are wrong on the part that they are the same , no they are different technologies , different architecture , different cores , there are games that have equal support for both the companies and both companies cards perform differently , please don't argue on this one , you are giving a intellectually lacking excuse for it , benchmarks means the most , proper ones that is , I have done many bench marks my self , and I can tell what card to get and what not to , why they are different and what makes them different
I haven't even said they are the same, of course they both have other technologies. Sure, NVidia has Physx but that doesn't mean a game will run faster on it. The cores are also different from each other.
And yeah, there are games that have equal support but that's still not the issue. Right now the 6990 and the GTX590 have the same power. You can't change it. Even if the companies get more technology, it won't change. as for example PhysX does nothing anymore as there are more powerful components to get. Unless they come up with some zomgwtfbqq that makes the card so powerful that nothing can pass it for a whole year.
And about benchmarks, nope. They are ment to test how much fps it can handle for an average game of this year. But it still does not mean anything as the games are differently developed.
The benchmarks from now are trash and runs nowaydays so slow that it's more of a stress program. If you haven't noticed yet most of the companies outside that test graphic cards actually benchmark the games instead of benchmark programs like 3dmax or Unigine. Where are the EFFECTS that lower your fps? The benchmark only tries to see if your card can handle the world, which is also badly coded.
Let's say this, 3Dmax 2010. Runs trash on ultra quality and looks more fugly than the games from now. (zomg 26 fps on ultra which is not really ultra quality)
HD6990 and the GTX590 are equal. Deal with it.
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najeeb
My Sir
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Tuesday, August 30, 2011
BlackhawkGT wrote : najeeb wrote : BlackhawkGT wrote : Benchmarks means nothing. The graphic cards are ment for gaming, not benchmarking all over the place. If you really want to compare, compare the FPS in GAMES. There's no difference in both these cards. It depends on HOW the game runs on the companies' card. Compare the Price difference, the voltage of the card AND how much fps it can handle on one of the thoughest games you can find.
Also, you still can't compare as they were not released at the same day or week. NVidia or ATI can still say: Oh hey, they are faster with the new card, let's try to make ours faster.
Just take a look, Just Cause 2 that FULLY supports ATI and leaves out NVidia.
http://media.bestofmicro.com/2/Z/286523/original/Just%20Cause%202%20Quad%20%282%29.png
Now check out Crysis 2 (the beta):
http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/video/geforce-gtx-590/21_crys2.png
Now you see, you can't compare these cards. Benchmarks doesn't say much as you can't even play the benchmark yourself. These cards are MENT for gaming, not benchmarks.
you still font get how graphics cards work , NO you are wrong on the part that they are the same , no they are different technologies , different architecture , different cores , there are games that have equal support for both the companies and both companies cards perform differently , please don't argue on this one , you are giving a intellectually lacking excuse for it , benchmarks means the most , proper ones that is , I have done many bench marks my self , and I can tell what card to get and what not to , why they are different and what makes them different
I haven't even said they are the same, of course they both have other technologies. Sure, NVidia has Physx but that doesn't mean a game will run faster on it. The cores are also different from each other.
And yeah, there are games that have equal support but that's still not the issue. Right now the 6990 and the GTX590 have the same power. You can't change it. Even if the companies get more technology, it won't change. as for example PhysX does nothing anymore as there are more powerful components to get. Unless they come up with some zomgwtfbqq that makes the card so powerful that nothing can pass it for a whole year.
And about benchmarks, nope. They are ment to test how much fps it can handle for an average game of this year. But it still does not mean anything as the games are differently developed.
The benchmarks from now are trash and runs nowaydays so slow that it's more of a stress program. If you haven't noticed yet most of the companies outside that test graphic cards actually benchmark the games instead of benchmark programs like 3dmax or Unigine. Where are the EFFECTS that lower your fps? The benchmark only tries to see if your card can handle the world, which is also badly coded.
Let's say this, 3Dmax 2010. Runs trash on ultra quality and looks more fugly than the games from now. (zomg 26 fps on ultra which is not really ultra quality)
HD6990 and the GTX590 are equal. Deal with it.
your words saying that they are equal won't prove it , and yes there are games that use an extensive use of the nvidia phyx technology , like mafia 2 , nvidia cards get a huge advantage in that game , and no the cards are not equal , power wise or over all , gtx590 won , not only in brute force but in temperatures and noise too so please don't argue until I have years on gpus
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ESFER25
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Tuesday, August 30, 2011
najeeb wrote : there are games that use an extensive use of the nvidia phyx technology , like mafia 2 , nvidia cards get a huge advantage in that game
I hope you realize that the fancy things they add in games like mafia 2 are just to advertise nvidia, since all that physx stuff could be done with amd...
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