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Linkxp500
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 Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Hey, I wanted to know if any of you guys experienced muscle pain in the upper left or right of your back. Do any of you know how to lessen the pain? I have been having severe back issues for a while, and today, it feels unbearable. I have a good idea what caused it, which is bad posture when using my laptop, and overstretching, but I don't know how to stop the excruciating pain from continuing... What do you suggest, besides pills like ibuprofen or a heating pad, which both don't seem to work?
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Mima
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Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Well, try to get some rest, try to relax your muscles as much as you can. That's the only advice I can give you, because I was never in that kind of situation.
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Linkxp500
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Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Mima wrote : Well, try to get some rest, try to relax your muscles as much as you can. That's the only advice I can give you, because I was never in that kind of situation.
I have spoken about this to some other people, and they said the same thing, but I do have things I gotta do, such as begin an essay for a book I have NOT yet read. So, how long do you suggest I rest? Because I don't have much time till that essay is due, disregarding other homework I might receive.
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TRL
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Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Get more exercise. Do a sport. Or just plain back muscle strengthening.
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Mima
The Disciple
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Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Try doing that essay while half laying, half sitting in the bed. It might ease up your muscles. But yeah, TRL is right, you should get more exercise on daily basis when it passes. 
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Linkxp500
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Wednesday, November 16, 2011
TRL wrote : Get more exercise. Do a sport. Or just plain back muscle strengthening.
I've been in Tae Kwon Do for a couple of years, maybe a little more, and if I stretch too much by, say, twist my upper body, it does loosen it up for sure, but later I find it injuring me more, when I end up doing kicks or something like that. So, I guess I will have to do some other kind of exercise: one that demands less aggressive activity like sparring. But I have been avoiding sparring for a few weeks now, so I guess I will try to do some exercises, you know, like weights. Thanks for the tip, TRL.
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RealDeal
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Wednesday, November 16, 2011
get a massage...
and try those pressure point massages too,also those blood circulating creams
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Linkxp500
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Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Mima wrote : Try doing that essay while half laying, half sitting in the bed. It might ease up your muscles. But yeah, TRL is right, you should get more exercise on daily basis when it passes.
Yeah, the way I've been doing my homework in bed was in an awkward position, so I think I'd have to sit up, in proper posture, and do it at my desk. I don't see how half laying, half sitting in bed will help my upper back, but it sure would help my lower back if I had an issue there. If I did that, it would stretch my upper back when it already feels like it'll rip off at any time.
RealDeal wrote : get a massage...
and try those pressure point massages too,also those blood circulating creams
I won't be able to get a massage when no one in the house will have the time or will to do so. And I don't plan on paying for a massage, so that is out of the question... the cream sounds like a good idea though, thanks.
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TRL
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Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Cream is not going to solve anything. Taking pain killers isn't either.
Only thing you can do is exercise and learn to ignore minor pains. If you acknowledge any pain that is not life threatening you only get more sensitive to it and it gets worse.
Bones, joints and muscles tend to ache, but in most cases it's nothing to worry about and can be solved by more and daily exercise.
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RealDeal
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Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Cream is not going to solve anything.
what's wrong with the cream......?
it helps for the moment
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Linkxp500
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Wednesday, November 16, 2011
TRL wrote : Cream is not going to solve anything. Taking pain killers isn't either.
Only thing you can do is exercise and learn to ignore minor pains. If you acknowledge any pain that is not life threatening you only get more sensitive to it and it gets worse.
Bones, joints and muscles tend to ache, but in most cases it's nothing to worry about and can be solved by more and daily exercise.
How do you suggest that I learn to ignore pain? I honestly have no clue how to do that, since throughout my entire life, I've had very low pain tolerance.
Is it possible that I am imagining any of that pain was worse than it really was? How do I refuse to acknowledge it?
I believe that medication doesn't help unless I really think it helps, but another factor must be, like you said, my acknowledgement to pain...
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TRL
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Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Well playing sports your tolerance already goes up. You get hit here and there, you suffer minor injuries, but because you know the cause you tend to be able to take it pretty well.
Most of the emotional acknowledgement of pain comes from the worry that it might have some severe cause. Which is almost never the case.
When you have the excruciating pains of a bone tumor, you'll know. It's like constantly getting stabbed with a 1000 knives in the deepest of your innards. Knowing this you should be able to place things in perspective.
Almost 80% of adults experience back pain at some point in their lives. The other 20% probably do too, but just don't notice or complain about it.
In that regard back pain is almost like the common cold. Some people call it being sick and stay at home, others barely notice and go on with life.
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Linkxp500
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Wednesday, November 16, 2011
TRL wrote : Well playing sports your tolerance already goes up. You get hit here and there, you suffer minor injuries, but because you know the cause you tend to be able to take it pretty well.
Most of the emotional acknowledgement of pain comes from the worry that it might have some severe cause. Which is almost never the case.
When you have the excruciating pains of a bone tumor, you'll know. It's like constantly getting stabbed with a 1000 knives in the deepest of your innards. Knowing this you should be able to place things in perspective.
Almost 80% of adults experience back pain at some point in their lives. The other 20% probably do too, but just don't notice or complain about it.
In that regard back pain is almost like the common cold. Some people call it being sick and stay at home, others barely notice and go on with life.
So you are saying there is no real way of resisting pain if I already do exercise and all that? For some reason, when I get in small scuffles (let's call them a disagreement consisting of physical contact) I can't take the pain too well, even after I started sparring in martial arts for as long as I have been.
I'm not competitive because I know I can't take something as small as a scrape until ten minutes later. I mean I can handle it, but if you saw me get such a wound you'd see me grab it and wince rather noticeably. But I wouldn't complain about it unless people notice my decrease in performance.
If I sit in a single position for about fifteen to twenty minutes, my back pain does lessen, but as soon as I have to head to class, which is currently twenty minutes from now, the pain comes pack just as painful as when I woke up this morning.
Is this pain tolerance mainly hereditary, and can it not be strengthened any more than it is now?
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TRL
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Wednesday, November 16, 2011
No that's not at all what I'm saying.
Playing sports is a start. From what I hear from you, you should get into it more. Be competitive, be fearless. You know how you can almost feel the pain, when somebody is about to hit you but then stops?
Everybody's nerves that conduct pain are exactly built the same way and carry the information at the same speed. It's a person's brain that makes up the difference in pain perception. It has somewhat to do with how you were brought up, the first examples of reaction to life events are your standards. But the brain is flexible and everything is trainable.
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RealDeal
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Wednesday, November 16, 2011
a massage from a barber here costs $1
and a reputed massage costs about $10-15
did you visit da doctor?
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LegendarySS4
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Wednesday, November 16, 2011
did you visit the doctor?
Doubt it.[/quote]
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Linkxp500
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Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Ah, so I need to learn to be competitive... And, yes, I was brought up in a sheltered lifestyle. I need to learn how to ignore pain while anticipating a painbringer.
I tend to flinch, so I need to become fearless... I normally don't like conflict, but I feel the need to fight for my respect from certain individuals.
How do I overcome this fear? I am afraid of my dad's temper, I am afraid of losing privileges to elctronics, and I am afraid of pain.
I've never learned to solve any personal and/or emotional problems on my own, yet I can give advice to others with logically-oriented issues. How can I learn to help myself, if I cannot control my own fear? I have rebelled against my parent's rules, yet I am afraid of getting into trouble.
I sometimes feel like I'm no good at thinking for myself, regarding decision making and peer pressure, and I am only good at doing so when I am level-headed and devoid of strong emotions. At the moment, my emotions are getting the better of me...
I apologize for digressing, I have had these feelings bottled up for some time... I feel, at times, inadequate...
I am letting my thoughts wander, so I just feel I need to communicate them somehow; I know it sounds a bit feminine, but I need some answers to these thoughts.
LegendarySS4 wrote : did you visit the doctor?
Doubt it.
You are correct LSSJ4; the problem wasn't as bad as this morning, so I might consider talking with my parents about it.
But TRL is getting me somewhere I think. I think it has something to do with how I was brought up, and how my fears have not lessened since then. I think my dependence upon my family has something to do with it, too.
Basically, I don't feel I can hold myself up without asking for advice from my parents on every little thing that affects me. It's not easy for me to build my own self esteem. Especially when my dad has such high standards for me that I try to keep up with, and doesn't allow me to slack off a bit.
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RealDeal
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Wednesday, November 16, 2011
maybe Zeth can help you 
he knows things.........
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Linkxp500
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Wednesday, November 16, 2011
RealDeal wrote : maybe Zeth can help you :*laughing out loud*: :*laughing out loud*: :*laughing out loud*:
he knows things......... :*laughing out loud*: :*laughing out loud*:
Yeah, I will try to contact him in about half an hour.
Really, you do have a point, he must know much more outside of programming and artistic techniques. I mean, he seriously talks like he's got a Ph.D., so he's gotta know more than he lets on. Logical and everything... Not saying he's lloyd, but he sure seems like it, in a few ways.
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RealDeal
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Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Linkxp500 wrote : RealDeal wrote : maybe Zeth can help you :*laughing out loud*: :*laughing out loud*: :*laughing out loud*:
he knows things......... :*laughing out loud*: :*laughing out loud*:
Yeah, I will try to contact him in about half an hour.
ahh Zeth let see you get out of this one
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LegendarySS4
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Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Heh  Brad.
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JayREEZY
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Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Link, have you tried increasing your potassium levels?  It works when I have that pain.
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Linkxp500
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Wednesday, November 16, 2011
JayREEZY wrote : Link, have you tried increasing your potassium levels? It works when I have that pain.
What do you mean by that? You mean eat more salt? I think that'll worsen it, seeing as how muscles generally are repaired when more water is consumed...
NOTE: You may be right, but I am not so sure. So if you can, please clarify how it would help.
@RealDeal and LSSJ4 - No luck; it seems Brad is not well versed in the ways of medical science. The one time where I need expert advice from him, he has next-to-no knowledge of the subject.
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RealDeal
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Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Linkxp500 wrote : JayREEZY wrote : Link, have you tried increasing your potassium levels? It works when I have that pain.
What do you mean by that? You mean eat more salt? I think that'll worsen it, seeing as how muscles generally are repaired when more water is consumed...
NOTE: You may be right, but I am not so sure. So if you can, please clarify how it would help.
@RealDeal and LSSJ4 - No luck; it seems Brad is not well versed in the ways of medical science. :*laughing out loud*: The one time where I need expert advice from him, he has next-to-no knowledge of the subject.
What *laughing out loud* Zeth answered you?
could you copy paste what he said I wanna read the epicness
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Linkxp500
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Wednesday, November 16, 2011
RealDeal wrote : Linkxp500 wrote : JayREEZY wrote : Link, have you tried increasing your potassium levels? It works when I have that pain.
What do you mean by that? You mean eat more salt? I think that'll worsen it, seeing as how muscles generally are repaired when more water is consumed...
NOTE: You may be right, but I am not so sure. So if you can, please clarify how it would help.
@RealDeal and LSSJ4 - No luck; it seems Brad is not well versed in the ways of medical science. :*laughing out loud*: The one time where I need expert advice from him, he has next-to-no knowledge of the subject.
What *laughing out loud* Zeth answered you? :*laughing out loud*: :*laughing out loud*: :*laughing out loud*:
could you copy paste what he said I wanna read the epicness :*laughing out loud*: :*laughing out loud*:
<Bradless> And how would I be able to help with a medical issue?
<Bradless> I can try, but I have no experience in that field.
After about 30 minutes after I explained my problem.
<Bradless> Back. Reading.
<Bradless> TRL is a borderline doctor (he's in medical school). So his advice should technically be the most sound.
<Bradless> Back pain is pretty common if you spend a lot of time at a computer.
<Bradless> A better chair can help and so can a better mattress to sleep on.
<Bradless> Those are the two affectors of most back pain unless you hurt it during some activity.
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