ZEQ2 Lite

Saturday, December 24, 2011

Hello everyone.

Has been a real long time since I posted anything here. I like the work going on in here and so I decided to jump back in as well with this..


Hope you all like it! Merry X'mas.

Saturday, December 24, 2011

good start man and Merry X'mas too

Saturday, December 24, 2011

merry cristmas

and very good start

Saturday, December 24, 2011

Looks great!

Saturday, December 24, 2011

Not bad

Saturday, December 24, 2011

Looks nice, but with those eyes it looks more like Goten so far. Goku needs more roundish eyes to look typically like his kid version.

Saturday, December 24, 2011

TRL wrote : Looks nice, but with those eyes it looks more like Goten so far. Goku needs more roundish eyes to look typically like his kid version.

Usually, yes, but ZEQ2-Lite is supposed to be a remastering of the story with Cell-Buu Saga visuals and cel-Shading.

EDIT: I didn't make that up, one of the respected forum members said that.

Saturday, December 24, 2011

Yes that's true.
But Goku didn't appear in the Buu saga.

Then it's good to search for artwork that was made in a similar era of kid Goku. You could also go with his GT design.

But daizenshuu artworks or his sprites from ultimate butoden 27 are a good place to find Buu saga time artwork. Like this:

Saturday, December 24, 2011

Well.... his GT design is utter garbage and I'm sure you agree.

How many refs do you keep on your computer? You always wip them out like a gun... BAM!

I guess your right that he didn't appear in the Buu Saga though, but he did appear in an episode while Piccolo was teaching Goten and Trunks the fusion dance. It was during Krillin's flashabck.

I guess were getting our references from different places.... I'll just let Niels choose because I'm not sure which ones are better.

In my opinion, I like the sharp cornered eyes better. I don't know why, but I don't think he looks like Goten, maybe because the face proportions are slightly different. Goten's cheeks were smaller than Goku's were and his hair was longer and more weighted even at that age.

I guess Niels could just make two different versions.

Saturday, December 24, 2011

Or these.








Basically a lot of Goku lifespan pictures were made in those days. Most of them are pretty cool.

Saturday, December 24, 2011

Hehe Jay that first one is actually the only one that isn't from yamamuro. It's a copy of a manga panel.

The problem with these is that they're from the post gt era, so when dragonball was actually not being produced as animation anymore and Toei effectively shut down (or at least the part that made dragonball animation). Must be around the year 2000 or a bit earlier.
Yamamuro and Nakatsuru still made a lot of dragonball art though from time to time. Like most game art and covers. And the covers for DVD releases. Nakatsuru can still please me till today but I think Yamamuro has kind of lost his touch. All in all I would never use anything from the post Toei shut down era of Dragon Ball Z pictures. There's always something off about it.

Saturday, December 24, 2011

so you can choice to do kidgoku new era...(new style)

or the first style ..of kid Goku Dragon Ball..

I prefer the old style.. you?

Saturday, December 24, 2011

Actually I see now why Niels' model looks so much like Goten. It's the eyebrows. Because of them he looks too innocent almost sad even. Goku never looked like that. He was either extremily happy, extremily tinkled or confused.

Sunday, December 25, 2011

TRL wrote : Actually I see now why Niels' model looks so much like Goten. It's the eyebrows. Because of them he looks too innocent almost sad even. Goku never looked like that. He was either extremily happy, extremily tinkled or confused.

That, and Goku's eyebrows are bushier than Goten's. It's ultimately the brow position like you said.

Hey Niels, try to get Zeth's opinion on the eye shapes, it's ultimately up to him(If you want it put in the SVN media).

Sunday, December 25, 2011

Get me a full front render of the head and I'll see what I can do.

Sunday, December 25, 2011

Amazing refs guys!! Thanks a ton

After reading your posts, I made a comparison and found that the eyebrows and eyes shape(as TRL stated) as well as the skin tone was the major problem, so I started fixing it.

While doing so, I decided to set up some morph targets instead of editing the mesh to further test the face structure and I'm quite happy with the results. I have actually setup 3 morph states and they are Base(no changes), Suspicious/frown and Smile.

Here are the results I got (includes the front head render you wanted Bradless). The last one is a mix of frown and smile, which I think looks cool so I added it

Sunday, December 25, 2011

the eyes still look like a Goten

look at trl's ref pictures they are rounded almost like a circle

the eyes remind me of Goten

Sunday, December 25, 2011

ssj6vegeta wrote : the eyes still look like a Goten

look at trl's ref pictures they are rounded almost like a circle

the eyes remind me of Goten

Check the last post of TRL. The eyes are rounded in some cases and is some cases they have sharp edges.

Sunday, December 25, 2011

hmm I didn't see that at first

maybe try to find a median?

Sunday, December 25, 2011

Yes, his eye shape does change when he's doing different expressions, but his default facial expression has round eyes. I would make them rounder if I were you.

Sunday, December 25, 2011

Alright, here you go! Rounded eyes..

I'd go with them in certain expressions

Sunday, December 25, 2011

better now..

Sunday, December 25, 2011

little drawover..

head now is shorter than before..
and look the eyes...

do you like more?

Sunday, December 25, 2011

NELLO!! wrote : little drawover..

head now is shorter than before..
and look the eyes...

do you like more?

Goku was a little lipid when he was a kid so that what NELLO did that's the real kid Goku face looks a little lipid

Sunday, December 25, 2011

NELLO!! wrote : little drawover..

head now is shorter than before..
and look the eyes...

do you like more?

Nello's drawover should be just fine.