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Omega41
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Tuesday, January 24, 2012
haven't you asked yourself why is it that when Brolly first came why didn't Gohan turn in Super Saiyan 2 nd just killed him nd were wz cell at that time???waiting for his cell games.*laughing out loud*
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RealDeal
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Tuesday, January 24, 2012
well dude the movies have a separate story from the anime
but sadly that isn't my opinion,my brother had made a proper timeline of what xactly happened when if both anime and movies were related.and it was a ctually a good timeline
you guys can try it out ,try putting two and two together
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Grega
Perpetual Traveler
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Tuesday, January 24, 2012
Omega41 wrote : haven't you asked yourself why is it that when Brolly first came why didn't Gohan turn in Super Saiyan 2 nd just killed him nd were wz cell at that time???waiting for his cell games.*laughing out loud*
No they were not. Goku and Gohan were not constantly transformed, Trunks and Vegeta didn't have their Ultimate Super Saiyan forms.
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Omega41
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Tuesday, January 24, 2012
Grega wrote : Omega41 wrote : haven't you asked yourself why is it that when Brolly first came why didn't Gohan turn in Super Saiyan 2 nd just killed him nd were wz cell at that time???waiting for his cell games.*laughing out loud*
No they were not. Goku and Gohan were not constantly transformed, Trunks and Vegeta didn't have their Ultimate Super Saiyan forms. yes I see that but when Gohan and Goku came out of the hypabolic time chamber they wer Super Saiyan and that was the only time Gohan became a Super Saiyan nw Vegeta had already reached there ultimate Super Saiyan forms..bt in the movie Gohan was a Super Saiyan so that meant that Vegeta and Trunks could use the ultimate Super Saiyan form..
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Grega
Perpetual Traveler
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Tuesday, January 24, 2012
Omega41 wrote : Grega wrote : Omega41 wrote : haven't you asked yourself why is it that when Brolly first came why didn't Gohan turn in Super Saiyan 2 nd just killed him nd were wz cell at that time???waiting for his cell games.*laughing out loud*
No they were not. Goku and Gohan were not constantly transformed, Trunks and Vegeta didn't have their Ultimate Super Saiyan forms. yes I see that but when Gohan and Goku came out of the hypabolic time chamber they wer Super Saiyan and that was the only time Gohan became a Super Saiyan nw Vegeta had already reached there ultimate Super Saiyan forms..bt in the movie Gohan was a Super Saiyan so that meant that Vegeta and Trunks could use the ultimate Super Saiyan form..
How about this theory.
Its a movie. It happens in a paralel universe. Since if you remember, they had a frigging picnic at the beginning. It has no relation what so ever to the timeline of the series or the abilities of characters during a similar state in the series.
That sound acceptable?
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Linkxp500
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Tuesday, January 24, 2012
Grega wrote : Omega41 wrote : Grega wrote : Omega41 wrote : haven't you asked yourself why is it that when Brolly first came why didn't Gohan turn in Super Saiyan 2 nd just killed him nd were wz cell at that time???waiting for his cell games.*laughing out loud*
No they were not. Goku and Gohan were not constantly transformed, Trunks and Vegeta didn't have their Ultimate Super Saiyan forms. yes I see that but when Gohan and Goku came out of the hypabolic time chamber they wer Super Saiyan and that was the only time Gohan became a Super Saiyan nw Vegeta had already reached there ultimate Super Saiyan forms..bt in the movie Gohan was a Super Saiyan so that meant that Vegeta and Trunks could use the ultimate Super Saiyan form..
How about this theory.
Its a movie. It happens in a paralel universe. Since if you remember, they had a frigging picnic at the beginning. It has no relation what so ever to the timeline of the series or the abilities of characters during a similar state in the series.
That sound acceptable?
I think I can explain Gohan not turning Super Saiyan 2... Gohan would only unleash his full power if he were angry to the point of hatred. However, I don't think I could say the same for Trunks and Vegeta, so stick with the idea that the anime is unrelated, story-wise, to the movies.
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Omega41
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Tuesday, January 24, 2012
But if you disreguard the movies there would be a problem still left that is the movie called coolers revange,we all know that cooler came to earth to kill Goku for defeating friza ,that would link it to the anime right,right? so I find that theory not so correct.*laughing out loud*
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Linkxp500
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Tuesday, January 24, 2012
Omega41 wrote : But if you disreguard the movies there would be a problem still left that is the movie called coolers revange,we all know that cooler came to earth to kill Goku for defeating friza ,that would link it to the anime right,right? so I find that theory not so correct.*laughing out loud*
But the movies are non-canon, because the anime never mentioned Frieza having a brother.
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RealDeal
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Tuesday, January 24, 2012
we all know that cooler came to earth to kill Goku for defeating friza ,that would link it to the anime right,right?
very true man
that is my I don't like to believe they aren't related to each other
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Djosama
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Tuesday, January 24, 2012
Directly after the cell games, Gohan couldn't go Super Saiyan 2 at will. Just as before, Goku had to be mad to become a Super Saiyan,Gohan had to be mad to become a Super Saiyan 2.
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LegendarySS4
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Tuesday, January 24, 2012
When Gohan and Goku came out from the hyperbolic chamber, there were Super Saiyan but not like angry Super Saiyan, but naturally calm, that's why Gohan had to be like that for his training.
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Grega
Perpetual Traveler
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Tuesday, January 24, 2012
Number 1.) Neither Goku nor Gohan were in their Super Saiyan form initially in the Brolly movie. So the timespam could not be the ween before the cell games, but rather during the time they were still in the time chamber training as Goku was still alive.
Number 2.) Goku was alive so it couldn't have been after the Cell games.
Number 3.) Cooler negotiating contracts to earth was a movie. No one ever said they couldn't build on that story (metal Cooler) and giving him an excuse (a remake of planet Vegetas destruction). Its called plot.
Number 4.) The only movies that have the possibility of being correctly put in to the time line are the folowing:
- Bardock OVA Special
- Dead zone
- Metal Cooler
- Trunks Special OVA
- Exploding Dragon Fist
The following movie can be argued since it only lacks the Fusion technique that Goten and Trunks could have used, but never do:
-Bio Brolly
All the other movies have misplaced character forms or techniques for the time line they are trying to represent.
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ssj6vegeta
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Tuesday, January 24, 2012
the first Brolly movie was supposed to happen between the 10 days cell gave them and Trunks used his ultimate Super Saiyan form in the first movie Vegeta used both regular and ascended
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Grega
Perpetual Traveler
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Tuesday, January 24, 2012
ssj6vegeta wrote : the first Brolly movie was supposed to happen between the 10 days cell gave them and Trunks used his ultimate Super Saiyan form in the first movie Vegeta used both regular and ascended
Trunks used that form in the Bojack Movie, not the Brolly movie. But even if that's a detail I don't remember, Goku and Gohan were both regular non Super Saiyan forms, which didn't happen in the series until after Goku was dead.
And sorry I missed that one.
Bojack Unbound can also be placed correctly in to the timeline (if Trunks ever returned)
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Zeth
The Admin
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Tuesday, January 24, 2012
Goku and Gohan were both regular non Super Saiyan forms, which didn't happen in the series until after Goku was dead.
This is not a definitive aspect to rule out the timeline possibility. Goku and Gohan maintained their Super Saiyan state as an exercise in reducing the costs of maintenance and familiarity with the Super Saiyan form. There is nothing to insist that they could not revert to their normal state. In fact, if Paragus (or the entire situation) seemed any at all suspicious, hiding their Super Saiyan state would actually prove beneficial to conceal their overall capabilities.
I'm not necessarily agreeing with the points of the timeline relation. I'm simply saying that this single point cannot be relied on as an imperative counterargument.
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Omega41
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Wednesday, January 25, 2012
ssj6vegeta wrote : the first Brolly movie was supposed to happen between the 10 days cell gave them and Trunks used his ultimate Super Saiyan form in the first movie Vegeta used both regular and ascended I could comfortably agree with this point and also include Zeth's point saying that Goku and Gohan could have hiden thier true abilites due to the position that they were in..
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Konan
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Wednesday, January 25, 2012
If the character uses full power all the time, than its reduce the episodes. The funny point is WE ALL KNOW while watching Dragon Ball, the characters ACT LIKE they use full power..but its a lie, they don't get serious in fight, only if its give sadness and sorrow, so the Trunks and Gohan can feel this really, Vegeta just mad because he can't reach Goku..and Goku train all the time, because he don't wanna be mad or sad so even if Goku act like an leaping lizard sometimes he always know what to do at the same time, and that's why he is unbeatable".
And he trained and protected Gohan etc etc..
In other words this series not about kill each other, it's about protect the others and the planet so the characters can't be serious every time, and the Movies show similar ways to defeat an enemy, they destroyed Hatchyack with combined power, and the same way true for every movie.
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Grega
Perpetual Traveler
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Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Zeth wrote : Goku and Gohan were both regular non Super Saiyan forms, which didn't happen in the series until after Goku was dead.
This is not a definitive aspect to rule out the timeline possibility. Goku and Gohan maintained their Super Saiyan state as an exercise in reducing the costs of maintenance and familiarity with the Super Saiyan form. There is nothing to insist that they could not revert to their normal state. In fact, if Paragus (or the entire situation) seemed any at all suspicious, hiding their Super Saiyan state would actually prove beneficial to conceal their overall capabilities.
I'm not necessarily agreeing with the points of the timeline relation. I'm simply saying that this single point cannot be relied on as an imperative counterargument.
While that is a possibility, they did not know who Paragus was until he introduced himself. Yet they were in the normal state even before that. You are basing your assumptions on the fact that you know the plot of the movie. But you forget to take in to account that Goku didn't know it, nor were they near full power even in their transformed state.
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GoldenWarrior
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Thursday, February 02, 2012
well I thought that Goku can just go super saiayn 5 billoin and do the same epic punch just like he did at the end of this movie(wow *laughing out loud* I couldn't type for c!rap
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Omega41
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Tuesday, February 07, 2012
*laughing out loud*
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emirh08
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Tuesday, February 07, 2012
I'm pretty sure this is just before the cell games because brollys father says there's a being on earth named cell who sounds like truble, this meaning that cell is still alive, Gohan can't go Super Saiyan 2 against Brolly because he has never don't it at that point
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RealDeal
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Tuesday, February 07, 2012
emirh08 wrote : I'm pretty sure this is just before the cell games because brollys father says there's a being on earth named cell who sounds like truble, this meaning that cell is still alive, Gohan can't go Super Saiyan 2 against Brolly because he has never don't it at that point
I don't remember Brolly father saying that.......
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GoldenWarrior
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Tuesday, February 07, 2012
me too *laughing out loud* and yes the time line you explained sounds right
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LegendarySS4
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Tuesday, February 07, 2012
Paragus never said that..
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RealDeal
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Tuesday, February 07, 2012
emirh08 wrote : I'm pretty sure this is just before the cell games because brollys father says there's a being on earth named cell who sounds like truble, this meaning that cell is still alive, Gohan can't go Super Saiyan 2 against Brolly because he has never don't it at that point
what the fuckfuck did you watch?.......hentai1?
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