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Sunday, June 24, 2012

Did any of you catch the series finale? What did you think?

I thought it was pretty good. But also suddenly WWI seemed to enter the avatar series with those airplanes.

Sunday, June 24, 2012

WWI *laughing out loud*, same thing I thought. Yeah, I liked how it tied things together in the end, and then the mushy "I love you..." at the end. Heartwarming. And the action was kickass. I hope to affiliate myself with Nick's Animation Studio's when I graduate, it would be awesome to work on a show like that.

Sunday, June 24, 2012

One thing I thought, they should have ended it at Korra losing her avatar powers. And then have her search for her spirit connection in the next season.

Now I even wonder if there will be a next season. I "know" somebody on deviantart who got into the avatar team. She's pretty badass. And all by just drawing avatar fanart all the time.

Haha and I always cringe at those forced mushy parts. They never seem to fit.

Sunday, June 24, 2012

You have a link to this girl on deviantart? And also, yeah I thought her getting her powers back wasn't as good as her maybe having to get them back later.

Sunday, June 24, 2012

http://rufftoon.deviantart.com/

I think this is her.

Sunday, June 24, 2012

Thanks. She has some good stuff.

Thursday, July 12, 2012

I enjoyed it :3

Thursday, July 12, 2012

Original Avatar was better, curious what happend between these two, like what did aang do when he was grown up and stuff?

Friday, July 13, 2012

Did any of you catch the series finale? What did you think?

The series has excellent character diversity, musical score, choreographed animations, multi-cultural influences, and managed to ramp up the story intensity on par with book two/three of the first series in just a few short episodes.

However, the same poor pacing in terms of achieving closure in the ending was present as it was in the first. Rather than rolling over many of the issues and unsolved questions that existed to the next book, we instead get a slew of deus ex machina solutions out of the blue. This is a rather strange introduction of events since we know it's not simply a matter of the network writers being limited by their demographic (just think back to the end of book two on the previous iteration).

One of the things this traditionalist style of storytelling does do best is essentially give you the beginning and end already from the formulatic flow that it's derived from, yet still allow the inner content and means to reach said goals a unique (and often shrouded) experience. An example being while Korra's loss of bending from Amon was quite obvious and inevitable, the path and conclusion to it occurring was certainly not (until the last fleeting moments, of course).

That said, it's a still a very well drawn and portrayed series with a great sense of western storytelling/characters mixed with technique, lore, history, and mythos from japan, china, Australia, tibet, India, polynesia, and many MANY others. Seriously, it's basically a unification of worldwide concepts that anyone can find parts of their culture within.

I thought it was pretty good. But also suddenly WWI seemed to enter the avatar series with those airplanes.

I think the industrial age being fully underway was pretty apparent already with the existence of airships, automobiles, and especially mechas. The bi-planes coupled with battle-cruiser class ships shouldn't have been that to much of a surprise to anyone.

Essentially, one could see The Legend of Korra as if Final Fantasy 6 and Arcanum birthed offspring. It genuinely embodies a lot of their timelines, character conflicts of interest, handling of technology/bending, and musical emphasis on strings (primarily Arcanum's focus on the violin in this regard).

Haha and I always cringe at those forced mushy parts. They never seem to fit.

They are primarily done as a fan-service to appease people who are interested in [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shipping_(fandom)] shipping [/URL] . Not that romantic entanglements don't have to exist, but they really don't need to be as contrived or obviously accelerated as they were in this new series to appease the fanbase.

Now I even wonder if there will be a next season.

They had planned two books (at least) from the start, so yes.

Original Avatar was better, curious what happend between these two, like what did aang do when he was grown up and stuff?

Better in what regard? It sounds to me like you just have a stronger emotional and personal attachment to the previous incarnation of characters. This is natural as you were introduced to them and able to follow their adventures for the better part of three years. There's a lot more room for development/growth still yet -- granted the new series has done a splendid job of capturing the pinnacle essence from the previous in no time at all already.

One thing I thought, they should have ended it at Korra losing her avatar powers. And then have her search for her spirit connection in the next season.

As I mentioned, they quickly wrapped up all the problems in a neat blanket for no apparent reason. There's barely any room for a strong continuation of plot. The equalists may still exist as a sociopolitical group, but Asami going bad to work with them? Weak in comparison to the living lloyd that Amon was (is?). I can only hope they'll explore whoever Amon's master/organization is -- since he obviously had to learn/adapt his energybending manipulation via bloodbending craft from somewhere.

I could go on with breakdowns and conjecture for hours, but I'll stop there for now.

Friday, July 13, 2012

Legend of Korra was very good, but Avatar: The last Airbender was better. In Avatar, there was more funny, less drama. Everything is quite good except for the lack of humor, but you can get used to it. I hope a new "book" will come out (heard rumors about book 2)

Sunday, July 15, 2012

Zeth wrote :
As I mentioned, they quickly wrapped up all the problems in a neat blanket for no apparent reason. There's barely any room for a strong continuation of plot. The equalists may still exist as a sociopolitical group, but Asami going bad to work with them? Weak in comparison to the living lloyd that Amon was (is?). I can only hope they'll explore whoever Amon's master/organization is -- since he obviously had to learn/adapt his energybending manipulation via bloodbending craft from somewhere.

Yeah that accelerated plot ending is a big let down in regard to such a huge build up. Amon was way too powerful to be defeated so easily! Also the fight against the firelord in the previous series had me wishing it was more like Goku vs frieza. At least stretched out over a couple of episodes with some plot twists and outside help. Long exciting fights doesn't seem to be their forte, although the action itself is always pretty sweet.

I guess you you're right about the plains, but they felt unnecessary because there already were airships they'd been using. It was a little too pearl harbor in New York for me.

Sunday, July 15, 2012

Aang stopped Yakon(don't know how to spell his name :3) when he was an adult also Aang said he was 41 years old instead of 141 *laughing out loud*

Tuesday, July 17, 2012

TRL wrote :

Zeth wrote :
As I mentioned, they quickly wrapped up all the problems in a neat blanket for no apparent reason. There's barely any room for a strong continuation of plot. The equalists may still exist as a sociopolitical group, but Asami going bad to work with them? Weak in comparison to the living lloyd that Amon was (is?). I can only hope they'll explore whoever Amon's master/organization is -- since he obviously had to learn/adapt his energybending manipulation via bloodbending craft from somewhere.

Yeah that accelerated plot ending is a big let down in regard to such a huge build up. Amon was way too powerful to be defeated so easily! Also the fight against the firelord in the previous series had me wishing it was more like Goku vs frieza. At least stretched out over a couple of episodes with some plot twists and outside help. Long exciting fights doesn't seem to be their forte, although the action itself is always pretty sweet.

I think that the issue here (and I could easily be wrong, but hey, free forum, yay!!!!) is that both series try so hard, and succeed fairly well, to maintain an overall positive or light tone, even with all the overshadowing angst and conflict. Most of the darker scenes are overshadowed with silly humor or ended fairly quickly, I feel, in an effort to maintain this mood.

The pacing for both series, though, are pretty rough, and the romantic angles are on-par with dopey, pre-teen romance, although that's probably intended.

The industrial setting is just crazy awesome, especially how it works in with the bending aspect of the world portrayed.

One thing I do love so much about the first series is its celebration of cultural diversity, which runs counter to much of the world today, as we've become cultural "mutts"(I don't use the term disrespectfully-it comes with positives and negatives, but isn't fully central to my fondness of this point) although with the second iteration the cultural boundaries seem much more of a melting pot than before(albeit understandably so, given the parallels to the real world and events as they unfolded in the last series).

All in all, though, I enjoyed this new direction, although I would like to have seen even more tie-in with the old(perhaps more Aang flashbacks?).

Also, lots of Jedi Knight Simmons. You know what? That's fine, sure. He's a Jedi. Thanks for clearing that up, word filter!

Tuesday, July 17, 2012

OH MY GOODNESS !!!! so much texts can't read

Tuesday, July 17, 2012

Aravind wrote : OH MY GOODNESS !!!! so much texts can't read

Beauty of the free forum, you don't have to!

But yeah, I probably could've formatted it better

Wednesday, July 18, 2012

I think that the issue here (and I could easily be wrong, but hey, free forum, yay!!!!) is that both series try so hard, and succeed fairly well, to maintain an overall positive or light tone, even with all the overshadowing angst and conflict. Most of the darker scenes are overshadowed with silly humor or ended fairly quickly, I feel, in an effort to maintain this mood.

I didn't have TOO much of a problem with the excessive projection of a lighter toned setup being overbearing, but yes, perhaps they could have separated the distinctions more contrastingly -- such as Adventure Time does. Regardless, they hit the one design point that makes any creation successful. Simplicity, but with depth. By simplicity, I'm referring to the effort it takes to understand the world, characters, and overall premise. By depth, I'm referring to things that you mention soon : cultural influences, sub-plots, suggestive implications, alternative motives and so forth.

Often series/games will go for a complex/depth or simple/flat design that either results in convoluted, unappealing cover/introductory value or overly bland/lackluster long-term value.

Again, the concept of a child-themed or "fairy-tale" motif layered on top of more critical themes is the same as with Adventure Time (which definitely needs a thread here) but not as aggressively separated/invisible as it is. The mere existence is what pulls adult fans, of course.

One thing I do love so much about the first series is its celebration of cultural diversity, which runs counter to much of the world today, as we've become cultural "mutts"(I don't use the term disrespectfully-it comes with positives and negatives, but isn't fully central to my fondness of this point) although with the second iteration the cultural boundaries seem much more of a melting pot than before(albeit understandably so, given the parallels to the real world and events as they unfolded in the last series).

Mega-agreed. I didn't touch up on this as much as I wanted to in my previous posts, but the seamless cultural mish-mash and world-traveling adventures to explore that variety of the first series were definitely appreciated. I don't think it's necessarily 'missing' from this iteration of Avatar though -- simply not as explored due to the limited scope of the city.

From what I've heard they will spend at least half of the next book traveling the world a bit for whatever reason, but overall the creators wanted to keep Korra more rooted in a single location rather than flying across everywhere on crazy adventures like Aang was. Gotta have a bit of distinction in some regard, you know?

Also, lots of Jedi Knight Simmons. You know what? That's fine, sure. He's a Jedi. Thanks for clearing that up, word filter!

Whaaaaaaat? How did I not know that he was the voice of Tenzin?! Cave Johnson, you sly dog.

Psssh. Everyone knew he was a Jedi Knight though.

Wednesday, July 18, 2012

The world traveling and cultural sites (like those awesome air temples or dragon temples) was what I missed most in the new series. I had no problem with them mainly focusing on the big city but some kind of interaction with the outside world once in a while would have been nice.
Then the first time some outside involvement comes, the fire general and his fleet, I was majorly disappointed in his role. He was pretty much a lacking in identifiable function character.

I've heard the same thing as you, Brad. That they will explore the world in the next season. So we have that to look forward to. I hope because of the industrial revolution the cultures will be even more diverse. They'll probably also have rural areas that still mainly follow the old ways.

I really wonder though what kind of villain/conflict they will come up with now. It seems like everything has about been explored. Some kind of anti-avatar? (although that's what Amon already kind of was with his avatar like abilities).
Maybe an android made by that evil car company hidden in the basements programmed to kill the avatar?

Wednesday, July 18, 2012

OH MY GOODNESS so many words :3

Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Aravind wrote : OH MY GOODNESS so many words :3

okay we get it, you're an illiterate bafoon. No sense in repeating yourself..

Wednesday, July 18, 2012

TRL wrote :

Aravind wrote : OH MY GOODNESS so many words :3

okay we get it, you're an illiterate bafoon. No sense in repeating yourself..

*laughing out loud*

just said it casue it sounds funney you take everything serious ? trl dude ?

Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Well, I guess you're laughing at yourself then if that's funny to you. Saying it one time was fine, but the second time, it's like you wanted people to react. So you got what you wanted.

Don't be angry you brought it on yourself.

Wednesday, July 18, 2012

TRL wrote : Well, I guess you're laughing at yourself then if that's funny to you. Saying it one time when was fine, but the second time, it's like you wanted people to react. So you got what you wanted.

Don't be angry you brought it on yourself.

*laughing out loud* okay

Wednesday, July 18, 2012

that fire general was zuko's son if you listen closely when he talks you can see he sounds like zuko

Wednesday, July 18, 2012

SSJ8Gogeta wrote : that fire general was zuko's son if you listen closely when he talks you can see he sounds like zuko

It was the exact same voice actor. And I thought it didn't fit for a grown man.

Wednesday, July 18, 2012

TRL wrote :

SSJ8Gogeta wrote : that fire general was zuko's son if you listen closely when he talks you can see he sounds like zuko

It was the exact same voice actor. And I thought it didn't fit for a grown man.

agree