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DarkPrince_92
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 Tuesday, December 04, 2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx-E9pzOFPM&feature=g-you
Interesting to say the least. Still prefer it to Evolu...... blurrghsshhh....
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Linkxp500
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Tuesday, December 04, 2012
There's already been a thread about this...
Though I must say I'm eager to see the final version.
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GoldenWarrior
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Wednesday, December 05, 2012
the special effects need some work, and they should make a wig for like Goku and Vegeta, not a plastic like one but with wavey hairy and stuff, you get what I'm saying, overall way better then evolution
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Newfolder
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Wednesday, December 05, 2012
Linkxp500 wrote : There's already been a thread about this...
Though I must say I'm eager to see the final version.
In fact this IS final version. 
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Linkxp500
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Wednesday, December 05, 2012
Newfolder wrote : Linkxp500 wrote : There's already been a thread about this...
Though I must say I'm eager to see the final version.
In fact this IS final version.
No, this is a trailer, explicitly stated in the title. Regardless if a full fan-made movie is made or not, the trailer cannot be considered the final version.
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AraVinD
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Wednesday, December 05, 2012
more work needs to be done to make it better 
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Linkxp500
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Wednesday, December 05, 2012
I think it's fine quality, especially for a fan-made re-enactment of Dragon Ball Z.
Where do you see people jump so high (without visibly seen devices that pull you high up in the air like you would see in certain plays like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory)?
The effects are great. The costumes look odd, but they are still quality work and makeup. You don't want to make the hair look exactly like the anime, or it doesn't fit very well with the rest of the look. I think the gelled hair make it look more believable of a hairstyle.
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Newfolder
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Wednesday, December 05, 2012
There won't be anything other than this trailer so it IS final version.... final version of this project. And their task was to make just trailer. I think it's simple 0_0.
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Linkxp500
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Wednesday, December 05, 2012
Newfolder wrote : There won't be anything other than this trailer so it IS final version.... final version of this project. And their task was to make just trailer. I think it's simple 0_0.
I see. I guess I assumed without reading the entire description thoroughly. I apologize. 
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Zeth
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Wednesday, December 05, 2012
The implied racial casting is a bit unsettling. Why do people assume Nameks are instantly African Americans or that Goku/Vegeta have to be Asian? We're talking about entirely different races (Saiyans/Nameks) and yet there are generalized associations of them. I honestly don't care WHO they have play the role as long as they can portray the character in a believable manner.
If we're going exclusively by glance perceptions, the Goku below is more of a standout.
It's not just about the vibrancy of the outfit, but the overall pose and physique.
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AraVinD
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Wednesday, December 05, 2012
I totally agree with Zeth hear 
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najeeb
My Sir
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Wednesday, December 05, 2012
Zeth wrote : The implied racial casting is a bit unsettling. Why do people assume Nameks are instantly African Americans or that Goku/Vegeta have to be Asian? We're talking about entirely different races (Saiyans/Nameks) and yet there are generalized associations of them. I honestly don't care WHO they have play the role as long as they can portray the character in a believable manner.
If we're going exclusively by glance perceptions, the Goku below is more of a standout.
It's not just about the vibrancy of the outfit, but the overall pose and physique.
personal perception ?
Why do people assume Nameks are instantly African Americans
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LegendarySS4
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Wednesday, December 05, 2012
Great.
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Linkxp500
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Wednesday, December 05, 2012
Zeth wrote : Why do people assume Nameks are instantly African Americans
Because Ganondorf, who is a gerudo thief that lives in the desert with a bunch of women as his puppies and has green colored skin, has this universal perception from everyone that he is black.
Not to mention Nameks are basically tribesman who were invaded by imperialistic aliens. In addition, Piccolo acts like a tough guy all day long, doesn't show his true feelings normally, and wears a turban.
Tell me, what Middle-East African doesn't wear a turban?
I know this all sounds a bit like a stereotype, but that's the logic behind green people and black people in anime, apparently.
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Domitjen
The Champ
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Wednesday, December 05, 2012
Couldn't Resist:p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoaIUbznLlM
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VLadD
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Thursday, December 06, 2012
DarkPrince_92 wrote : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx-E9pzOFPM&feature=g-you
Interesting to say the least. Still prefer it to Evolu...... blurrghsshhh....
Oh my lloyd 
it's real peace of shiiit....
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Linkxp500
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Thursday, December 06, 2012
VLadD wrote : DarkPrince_92 wrote : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx-E9pzOFPM&feature=g-you
Interesting to say the least. Still prefer it to Evolu...... blurrghsshhh....
Oh my lloyd
it's real peace of shiiit....
Explain why you think that. It's obviously not that bad if others think it's far better than Dragon Ball Evolution.
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AraVinD
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Thursday, December 06, 2012
Evalution simply better in visual effects and character chooseing while this movie is better in performance and story line with hard works and ideology
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Linkxp500
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Thursday, December 06, 2012
Aravind wrote : Evalution simply better in visual effects and character chooseing while this movie is better in performance and story line with hard works and ideology
I don't think you know what you are saying...
If leaving out Krillin is better character choosing, then you must not know what Krillin's importance to the anime really was.
Visual effects and performance are irrelevant, and the storyline of this trailer is the same as that of the Saiyan Saga; they both had to have done hard work to get it looking good at all.
I don't know where you get ideology, since that really has to do with personal beliefs in systematic procedures, not anything to do with the acting or props displayed here.
I think the most that could be said here is that both films had perks and setbacks. However, we need to clearly distinguish what these perks and setbacks truly are without personal preference interfering.
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LegendarySS4
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Thursday, December 06, 2012
Linkxp500 wrote : Zeth wrote : Why do people assume Nameks are instantly African Americans
Because Ganondorf, who is a gerudo thief that lives in the desert with a bunch of women as his puppies and has green colored skin, has this universal perception from everyone that he is black.
Not to mention Nameks are basically tribesman who were invaded by imperialistic aliens. In addition, Piccolo acts like a tough guy all day long, doesn't show his true feelings normally, and wears a turban.
Tell me, what Middle-East African doesn't wear a turban?
I know this all sounds a bit like a stereotype, but that's the logic behind green people and black people in anime, apparently.
Middle-Eastern African?
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JayREEZY
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Thursday, December 06, 2012
LegendarySS4 wrote : Linkxp500 wrote : Zeth wrote : Why do people assume Nameks are instantly African Americans
Because Ganondorf, who is a gerudo thief that lives in the desert with a bunch of women as his puppies and has green colored skin, has this universal perception from everyone that he is black.
Not to mention Nameks are basically tribesman who were invaded by imperialistic aliens. In addition, Piccolo acts like a tough guy all day long, doesn't show his true feelings normally, and wears a turban.
Tell me, what Middle-East African doesn't wear a turban?
I know this all sounds a bit like a stereotype, but that's the logic behind green people and black people in anime, apparently.
Middle-Eastern African?
I kind of like the idea of black Piccolo...
I don't know... It seems like Akira Toriyama was very specific about what races his chatacters were, (though indirectly) yet alluded as to what is was by their attire and cultural practices, rather than skin color. It was an ideal portrayal of race if you ask me.
It just makes more sense. Piccolo is from a tribal-based alien planet full of warriors whos garb vaguely resembles a lot of tribal african attire. I realize that africans are not the only race like this in real life, yes, but if not black, then, the actor must be more "browned" to indicate tribal origin better than someone who wasn't, or in this case, white. Just to recapture Piccolo's features (like voice, height etc.) better without the use of aesthetics.
He's middle-eastern african broham
I would say that the same goes for Goku and the rest of the Z-fighters being of Asian descent, but only Tenshinhan, Chiaotzu and Krillin really match the visual criteria... Despite saiyans being consistently black hair, black-eyed, like the majority of those who are of asian descent, they don't resemble asians at all
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Zeth
The Admin
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Thursday, December 06, 2012
Because Ganondorf, who is a gerudo thief that lives in the desert with a bunch of women as his puppies and has green colored skin, has this universal perception from everyone that he is black.
You say "universal perception", but I cannot help but deduce this kind of blunt sophomoric thinking only applies in a satirical way or is accepted by the mindless misinformed.
Not to mention Nameks are basically tribesman who were invaded by imperialistic aliens. In addition, Piccolo acts like a tough guy all day long, doesn't show his true feelings normally, and wears a turban.
Tell me, what Middle-East African doesn't wear a turban?
That's pretty much as generalized and stereotyped as you can get on a racial/cultural level. If you truly believe Toriyama was trying to cast Piccolo (and Namekians as a whole) as being derived from an African line, then in what manner do you classify their interpretation of Mr. Popo or actual intended African roles in Dragon Ball? Furthermore, even if we did go along and use your analogy of the Namekian people, they would have much more in common with spiritually-inclined Native Americans who lived off the land. Again though, even Native Americans were present in the series so their duality as a represented race comes to question. Honestly, this entire ordeal seems like people stretching broad associations and relative qualities as much as possible to make alien races fit into real-world counterparts.
Besides that, who they have similarities to in our world was not a distinction topic I was aiming for. It doesn't matter if Goku is played by an Asian, Indian, Mexican, Causian, or whatever individual as long as the actor shown actually has SIMILAR physical traits as the character they are representing. Muscle mass, facial features, voice, and just a common relative build can go a very long way in character associations over just replicating perceived race and throwing important qualities to the wind.
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RealDeal
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Thursday, December 06, 2012
it was actually quite good
vegetas costume could have been more sharper though,I mean the armor looked like some night pajamas
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Linkxp500
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Thursday, December 06, 2012
Zeth wrote : Because Ganondorf, who is a gerudo thief that lives in the desert with a bunch of women as his puppies and has green colored skin, has this universal perception from everyone that he is black.
You say "universal perception", but I cannot help but deduce this kind of blunt sophomoric thinking only applies in a satirical way or is accepted by the mindless misinformed.
You deduced correctly. I prefer to just leave Ganondorf as a Gerudo and that's it. Though there are some near brown interpretations of Ganondorf's appearance in the game, which would classify him and the Gerudo tribe as North African, seeing as how they dwell in the desert away from civil society.
Zeth wrote : Not to mention Nameks are basically tribesman who were invaded by imperialistic aliens. In addition, Piccolo acts like a tough guy all day long, doesn't show his true feelings normally, and wears a turban.
Tell me, what Middle-East African doesn't wear a turban?
That's pretty much as generalized and stereotyped as you can get on a racial/cultural level. If you truly believe Toriyama was trying to cast Piccolo (and Namekians as a whole) as being derived from an African line, then in what manner do you classify their interpretation of Mr. Popo or actual intended African roles in Dragon Ball? Furthermore, even if we did go along and use your analogy of the Namekian people, they would have much more in common with spiritually-inclined Native Americans who lived off the land. Again though, even Native Americans were present in the series so their duality as a represented race comes to question. Honestly, this entire ordeal seems like people stretching broad associations and relative qualities as much as possible to make alien races fit into real-world counterparts.
Besides that, who they have similarities to in our world was not a distinction topic I was aiming for. It doesn't matter if Goku is played by an Asian, Indian, Mexican, Causian, or whatever individual as long as the actor shown actually has SIMILAR physical traits as the character they are representing. Muscle mass, facial features, voice, and just a common relative build can go a very long way in character associations over just replicating perceived race and throwing important qualities to the wind.
Forgive my rudeness, but maybe you should have specified those types of qualities rather than talking about how Goku and Vegeta shouldn't be auto-classified as Asians and pointing out that Piccolo shouldn't be automatically played by a black guy.
I do agree with you that there should be other characteristics of characters that should be weighted. Though the guy who played Goku didn't have the tall and average build, he did seem to show the sense of justice (in more than words). He looked angry at the Saiyans for their actions.
Nappa didn't seem too bad either. He was cocky, bulky, and oblivious to danger.
I do think Vegeta should have expressed his superiority more than he did. As for Piccolo, I think he was not quite the Piccolo I know. This guy wasn't always with a stern or angry expression. That one seen with a close-up of his eyes really made that fact pronounced.
So yeah, it could be better, but it could be worse.
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Zeth
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Thursday, December 06, 2012
Forgive my rudeness, but maybe you should have specified those types of qualities rather than talking about how Goku and Vegeta shouldn't be auto-classified as Asians and pointing out that Piccolo shouldn't be automatically played by a black guy.
I did specify those qualities. My first post explained how the racial pre-conceptions shouldn't be the first and foremost trait recognized over other more important qualities.
Nappa didn't seem too bad either. He was cocky, bulky, and oblivious to danger.
I do think Vegeta should have expressed his superiority more than he did. As for Piccolo, I think he was not quite the Piccolo I know. This guy wasn't always with a stern or angry expression. That one seen with a close-up of his eyes really made that fact pronounced.
Aside from the cheesy one-liners and cliche writing effecting most of the dialogue exchanges (in general), Nappa seemed fine. Vegeta had a nice coarseness to his voice also. Piccolo's constant "grr" expression and strangely crystal blue eyes kind of pushed him away as being relatable. Likewise with Chiaotzu.
Some key memorable poses/scenes were struck, but the mêlée exchanges in general were not very reflective of the core ones in the series. The beams/attacks also didn't have a proper initial "muzzle flash" and started rather flat in comparison to their counterparts.
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