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Friday, December 02, 2011

Zeth wrote :

You should provide the talented bunch on this forum with more quality parts that they can use (like that hand), so they won't waste any time redoing stuff or using bad ones either.

Practical and reasonable. I've stated this many times as well.

This was aimed at you

You JUST provided an indirect supporting consensus in your previous paragraphs that logically said the exact opposite. To be thorough in the rationale, it's more than just about style consistency or even just utilizing time effectively. If you consider the fact that Dragon Ball Z (and other concepts) use the same artistic principles in it's original drawing styles, it's pretty plain to see that there's little point in recreating the same components again and again when the result is perceptually (and structurally) identical.

What logical reason do you have for not supporting piece reuse even though you obviously understand its benefits?

Yes I did, I pointed the options which I both support, if I was to work for a game, I would go with the "using other peoples parts or work" to make the mod look like its connected.

Other than that option, using other peoples work, I really do not support, since if you are not working on a game, OR you STILL don't know how to make proper parts yourself, why use alien ones? That's cheating and you will NEVER learn the proper way to do anything by it.

Both options were aimed for the people that are not rookies, others NEED to learn from scratch and that is that.

Recreating instead of taking

Friday, December 02, 2011

Other than that option, using other peoples work, I really do not support, since if you are not working on a game, OR you STILL don't know how to make proper parts yourself, why use alien ones? That's cheating and you will NEVER learn the proper way to do anything by it.

Of course, but how is that relative to this topic at hand? TRL knows how to model and texture on his own. The entire Yamucha model was crafted from scratch.

Both options were aimed for the people that are not rookies, others NEED to learn from scratch and that is that.

Recreating instead of taking

I agree that artists should know how to create their own meshes on their own; however, I think that an artist's end-goal should be to create the best possible results over any other aspect (using component pieces that are shared whenever possible).

The idea is that you start out by using and editing existing components and only model when it's absolutely necessary to do so -- giving back your creation for others to not repeat the same process again. Like I said, it's not just about saving time. It's about a practical concept of evolutionary progression for you and for others.

The principle of reuse is not a bad thing and as such should not be villainized for serving as a placeholder until a better standard comes around.

Friday, December 02, 2011

Hair grow!

On the subject of using other parts. I plan to use this model for a bare feet Goku and a Saiyan saga krillin. So everyone is happy now?

So I covered his ears, gave him some extra curls and made a better hair shape on top. The hair on his back is still to be done.

Also already did some minor fixes to the head and chest/neck area.

I think it's an improvement.

Friday, December 02, 2011

sure .! good improvement..

Friday, December 02, 2011

TRL wrote :
I plan to use this model for a bare feet Goku and a Saiyan saga krillin. So everyone is happy now?

Made my day

Friday, December 02, 2011

Yes, the resemblence is uncanny.... He jumped off the TV screen.

Friday, December 02, 2011

TRL wrote : Hair grow!

On the subject of using other parts. I plan to use this model for a bare feet Goku and a Saiyan saga krillin. So everyone is happy now?

So I covered his ears, gave him some extra curls and made a better hair shape on top. The hair on his back is still to be done.

Also already did some minor fixes to the head and chest/neck area.

I think it's an improvement.

looks great, very good work, I want animate him (not rig it, just animate it)...

Friday, December 02, 2011

Thanks guys!

Here are some major fixes for the body proportions.

Friday, December 02, 2011

really nice ...I think that now is finished.. right?..

Friday, December 02, 2011

Are you also doing the animations and particles or will that be handed off to someone else? And Looks great.

Friday, December 02, 2011

Djosama wrote : Are you also doing the animations and particles or will that be handed off to someone else? And Looks great.

I'm pretty sure Skatter will be doing the particles

Friday, December 02, 2011

The proportions have matched near perfection . Are you sure the muscles aren't a little large?

Saturday, December 03, 2011

is perfect subjective or objective...
is perfect...

now I hope that you want rig this and animate..
this is my dream..


can show picture of the back side TRL?

I want see hair...

Sunday, December 04, 2011

Looking good TRL, try to look at it as a cutout, make the mesh pure black and see only the silhouette, by doing that I can see that the crotch needs to be pulled down a tad, and so on.

Look at it from all angles like that mayne, go go go!

Sunday, December 04, 2011

Skatter wrote :

TRL wrote :
I plan to use this model for a bare feet Goku and a Saiyan saga krillin. So everyone is happy now?

Made my day

Heh, you love the Saiyan Saga

Sunday, December 04, 2011

I want this character or I'm going to make a loving rebellion against this slam

Tuesday, December 20, 2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxpO20cXeQ4&list=UUiQ4CylwLPCWB8EHzunYtrA&index=1&feature=plcp

I'll keep trying to clean this up. TRL, it's going to look so much better just when it isn't this crappy Goku edit. I played around with the lightning, but you can't tell it from the video very well

Tuesday, December 20, 2011

here the Yamucha that I have rigged.....need some fix

I don't know why but I can't use de attachment function..so I upload the file max here

http://www.4shared.com/file/HzzAokFu/Yamucha.html

Wednesday, December 21, 2011

Cool skatter! That is quite the incentive. I really like how the ball flickers like that. Also Garlic jr map for the win!

Wednesday, December 21, 2011

Yep, Deadzone Map

Wednesday, December 21, 2011

when yo created that map skatter??...
I want see again

looks very good....

gigirs that Yamucha is Yamucha old version right?..
the actually SVN...

can't wait the new version Saiyan saga...
TRL...
you have fixed the head ,body proportions and finished the textures so far...

Wednesday, December 21, 2011

He didn't created it, it's in the Media folder.

Wednesday, December 21, 2011

LegendarySS4 wrote : He didn't created it, it's in the Media folder.

media??

I've update now with toirse ...but ther aren't dead zone map..

Wednesday, December 21, 2011

NELLO!! wrote :

LegendarySS4 wrote : He didn't created it, it's in the Media folder.

media??

I've update now with toirse ...but ther aren't dead zone map..

http://ZEQ2.com/SVN/Media/Maps/

Wednesday, December 21, 2011

TRL wrote : Cool skatter! That is quite the incentive. really like how the ball flickers like that. Also Garlic jr map for the win!

Hah, thanks, TRL! I'll keep trying to make it better and better, but the moveset is nothing with out the master's model And yeah, that map's just good and dark, perfect for clips like that *intense laughter*

NELLO!! wrote : when yo created that map skatter??...
I want see again

looks very good....

gigirs that Yamucha is Yamucha old version right?..
the actually SVN...

can't wait the new version Saiyan saga...
TRL...
you have fixed the head ,body proportions and finished the textures so far...

I didn't create the map. That's an old Bid For Power map. It's improbable to actually play on that map, really, but it's good for some contrast. It had that purplish hue that the "Showdown in the Past" would have. Some of you talented mappers out there might give that a try! The battle between Yamucha, Tenshinhan, Krillin, and Chiaotzu against the two Saiyans in the past. It'll be great! Stark difference in the bright maps we have now!