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Sunday, February 07, 2010

TRL wrote : I personally don't like metal either. People who only listen to one genre of music are silly.

I don't.I listen to rock,nu-metal,heavy metal(not too much),Grunge,rock&roll isn't bad too.

Monday, February 08, 2010

In my opinion, there's a big difference between only listening to an overarcing and expansive genre and only listening to a single closed up genre where all the songs follow the same rules. I presonally enjoy a lot of different music, but pretty much all I make a point of listening to is some form of "metal" as, no matter what sound I feel like hearing, a broad genre such as that will cover it.

From bludgeoningly heavy distorion to chilled out accoustic, from deathrattle growls to ultra melodic harmonized vocals, from three-chord-riffs to amazingly technical fretwork, from adrenaline fueled searing solos to peaceful and beautiful and serene ones, heck, from dead serious issues to comedic self-deprecating hillarity, anger to sadness, rage to love, "metal" has so many different sounds and emotions these days that it's as much an over-genre such as "rock" and "pop" have also become.

There isn't a vocal style which links all metal, not a song structure, not a subject matter, not a style of playing or even a specific set of instruments that must be played. There's a metal band which just plays only Chellos while another which consists of a drummer and 5 vocalists. Two decidedly "metal" tracks can sound worlds apart. A lot people don't even realise what's "metal" and what's not when they discuss whether their views on the genre.

This becomes very apparent when you get people banging on about "Oh I absolutely dislike all metal, it's so terrible, I like this genre instead" before listing a half dozen metal bands in their favourites of all time, which happens far more often than you'd expect.

I expect this stems from the common misconception that metal is always and only ever an undecipherable mash of noise which is so distorted you can't hear anything with vocals which are nothing but "rawgh rawgh rawgh rawgh" so when they come across "metal" which isn't that, they don't class it as metal.

It's like thinking all Rappers are homophobic, sexist criminal thugs blabbering barely legible poetry and nonsense in half-English to an irritating beat going "doomf-umpf-doomf-umpf" the whole way; Or that all Dance/Techno/Electronica is just made by some dude in his basement ripping a load of samples from other songs to hash together in Reason with some bleeps and bloops layered on top; Or all Drum & Bass is just the same old 2 second drum loop behind a pitch shifting Bass line, sequenced together in Dance eJay.

At the end of the day it's pointless misconceptions like those which cause people to act like self important fearsome creatures who just insult others' tastes in these discussions, rather than allowing it to progress in a free manner and actually discussing the music itself.

This is, afterall, a thread to discuss what each of us enjoys listening to, not to insult each other for it nor to get into arguements about what's "better" as it's all opinion. It just shows how petty and, to be honest, childish certain people are who attempt to turn it into a slagging match, attacking others, their opinion and generally baiting in an attempt to elicit a direct confrontational response. It's quite magnificent, in all honesty.

So let's drop any negativity towards others' tastes and get back to discussing the actual music, yeah? It's plenty fine to discuss why you don't like something as long as you actually discuss why you don't like it, giving reasons and explanations for you're opinion rather than just shouting "you're a loving lacking leaping lizard for liking that terrible zippy music."

We should be introducing each other to new music and broadening our horizons instead of knee-jerking at a type you're prejudiced against and bludgeoning each other about how that genre's terrible but this one's the best. For once, how about we take this purposeful thread and turn it into openminded, intelligent dicussion?

Monday, February 08, 2010

TRL wrote : I personally don't like metal either. People who only listen to one genre of music are silly.

why is that?

Monday, February 08, 2010

Oh you like lady gaga then you should like this: *intense laughter*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJKzO0Mkhr8

Thursday, February 11, 2010

not particular choice..

for now All is WELL.

Thursday, February 11, 2010

Well in my book you don't have a versatile music taste if you don't at least include rock, electronic and some black music into your appetite.

The fact that metal seems very versatile is because of the fans. They like to label things. I wouldn't go as far as to level it with pop or rock. I see metal as a subgenre of rock. In the sense that rock is anything involving guitars and white guys.

I don't like to label things in high detail. Just for the fact that so many music is pretty eclectic these days. Some hip hop has a lot of electro influence, I think of david guetta collaborating with akon and dizzee rascall practically inventing the genre when he firs worked with calvin harris.

I appreciate pop only in the sense that it reminds me of parties and that I had a good time.

Friday, February 12, 2010

nielsmillikan wrote :
All is WELL.

Not all is well,
its
aallll is well. *laughing out loud*

Friday, February 12, 2010

TRL wrote : Well in my book you don't have a versatile music taste if you don't at least include rock, electronic and some black music into your appetite.

The fact that metal seems very versatile is because of the fans. They like to label things. I wouldn't go as far as to level it with pop or rock. I see metal as a subgenre of rock. In the sense that rock is anything involving guitars and white guys.

It's a versatile genre because it's a versatile genre. Fans call it versatile because they have listened to a whole range of it rather than listening to a small slice of stereotypical metal bands as everyone who moans about it being otherwise have.

Metal is far from just being a subgenre of Rock, depending on what subgenre of metal you listen to it can be much more related to blues than Rock, even jazz, electronica, drum & bass, opera, rap, country, folk, punk, basically any type of music could, and likely does, have a metal derrivitive or hybrid. That is a versatile genre, one which can tie in and fits with almost any other, adding their range of sounds to it's own.

Personally I don't value electronic/synthasized music much at all, it's a totally disconnected and emotionless form of music. The vast majority of popular "music" created using electronic backing often ends up as 3 minutes of the same few bars of a simple loop repeated constantly with a shifting pitch. It's music by numbers with the safety net of powerful software to do most things for the "artist" automatically.

However I'm not much of a fan of those genres so my narrow view of it is obviously not going to include the full orchestral compositions capable by experts and the glorious range of sounds such a form of music is certainly capable of achieving. Nope, not being a fan makes me look at the lowest common denominator which I'm aware of and assume there's nothing more to it, pretty much as you're doing with Metal.

As I said, practically all I choose to listen to is metal, but that doesn't mean I don't appreciate other genres. I do love blues and jazzy tunes, especially when jamming on my guitar. I really enjoy well paced, addrenaline pumping electronic music on action movie or game sound tracks to complement the visuals. I obviously love Rock and the classics from the genre, anyone who likes metal but not rock is incredibly confused, considering the overlap. I enjoy the odd bit of hip-hop or rap if it's actually musical and not just an discomforting beat with indecipherably fast nonsense lyrics spoken in an ear-grating tone over the top as most Top-40 rap seems to be.

Though, one thing I'm unsure on, What do you mean by "black music" and what relevency does that have to any of this?

I'm fairly sure you're meaning along the lines of Rap, Hip-Hop and Contemporary RnB, but those genres are as white as they are black these days. What about Blues, Jazz and Rhythm & Blues? Are you including those as well or just the modern "black" genres? Personally I find the whole idea of refering to a selection of musical types as "white" or "black" pretty intriguingly diversified and segragative. Music is music and meant to be enjoyed no matter what the artists' or listener's skin colour. There are white rappers, there are black rockers. There's white hip-hop dudes and black metalheads. The whole concept of defining a type of music by the skin colour of the majority of artists is just incredibly out dated and has no place in a serious discussion about music.

Or did you mean it in more of a "people should have an appreciation for the music of other cultures" sort of way? If you did, why limit it to so-called "black" music? There's far more to music than "black" music, electronica and rock, so many different cultures have their own iconic musical style. Thinking in that manner just limits what your mind is open to, which is a fairly ironic way of looking at things if that is the message you're trying to get across.

I'm open to any music I hear, my judgement is made on what I think of the music or artist and not a prejudice against the genre itself. As I've said, I choose to mostly listen to metal as it's the sort of music I enjoy the most, but that's far from the extent of my tastes nor does it limit them. Nor do I push any of my views on the subject onto others saying "this is the way it is and anyone with different ideas is wrong." It's the difference between choosing to only listen to such a genre out of preference and liking only a certain a genre out of a misplaced dislike for others.

Realistically it's all opinions. What you think about music is completely different to what someone else thinks about music. No one is right and no one is wrong. Having an opinion that people are silly for liking or not liking a band or genre, or stating that people must like this, this and this if they're to say they have a versatile taste is a complete waste of time and utterly meaningless in music discussions. It's the musical equivilent of going into a thread about "favourite games" and saying that anyone who doesn't play on Platform-X isn't a real gamer just because you dislike Platform-Z. Totally not a productive direction to take such conversations in.

Friday, February 12, 2010

now that... is what I call an essay.
I only listen to one rock song on my ipod
Through the fire and flames
it's the only rock song I listen too.

Friday, February 12, 2010

Black music, is music originated in black culture, basically anything highly based on rhythm, like jazz, reggae, reggaeton, hip hop, soul.

Be serious for a minute Alex. You mean to tell me you have a versatile music taste if you primarily listen to metal?

I was stating you need to incorporate many different genres into your music library if you want to call your taste versatile (you could also add latin music to those examples I gave). Not that it's necessarily the way to go. I know the majority of people have one major music taste that generally originates in their teens because all of their friends listen to it too. We're social beings after all.

Hearing you talk about other genres than metal, you really do seem to dislike most.

I admit, I dislike metal because of prejudice and it seems our tastes are the exact opposites. I like anything but metal, you only like metal. It's exactly like that with me and my brother too.

Friday, February 12, 2010

I suppose I'm silly because I only like Rap and SOME pop.

Friday, February 12, 2010

TheXenon wrote : I suppose I'm silly because I only like Rap and SOME pop.

Pretty much. Why would you only like rap?

Friday, February 12, 2010

When music goes into my ears and I hear the lyrics, I think to my self either: This is good music OR I don't like this music. When I litsen to Rap I like it.

When I litsen to Metal... Eh not so much. I don't know why.

Friday, February 12, 2010

Is there only rap or metal in the us or something?

Take for instance this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc3QNcec5RE&feature=fvst

Hot dance track! Don't tell me you don't like this.

Maybe it's just that you don't get exposed to other genres enough.

Friday, February 12, 2010

I litsen to all sorts of music I only favourite rap.

And you're funny, why the heck would I live in the US *laughing out loud*. I live in Canada.

that's a good track but why would I put that on my iPod and just litsen to it *laughing out loud*. I think it's more fitting for something in a club or something like that.

Saturday, February 13, 2010

TRL wrote : Is there only rap or metal in the us or something?

Take for instance this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc3QNcec5RE&feature=fvst

Hot dance track! Don't tell me you don't like this.

Maybe it's just that you don't get exposed to other genres enough.

*laughing out loud*, the beginning sounds like a cow (or somebody with diarrhea?) and a drum.

Sunday, February 14, 2010

I like that 'Between the Buried and Me' solo you posted, Alex. I'd heard about them before, I should listen to them some more.. Do they scream/growl? I'm not too huge a fan of that style of singing .

As for me, I'm a big fan of the cheesy, happy, melodic sounds found in Power Metal!
My favourite band is Sonata Arctica. They are considered power metal, but I'd say they're more progressive/symphonic in their more recent albums. I like how they can do fast songs as well as slow and dramatic songs, to big, epic songs. Here's some stuff of theirs:

A rather chilling sounding intro:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aQ17mmHJEo&fmt=18

A more epic song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUKxqU0yzIY&fmt=18

One of the early, fast songs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy81-mzwQoE&fmt=18

Sunday, February 14, 2010

Oldbean wrote : I like that 'Between the Buried and Me' solo you posted, Alex. I'd heard about them before, I should listen to them some more.. Do they scream/growl? I'm not too huge a fan of that style of singing .

As for me, I'm a big fan of the cheesy, happy, melodic sounds found in Power Metal!
My favourite band is Sonata Arctica. They are considered power metal, but I'd say they're more progressive/symphonic in their more recent albums. I like how they can do fast songs as well as slow and dramatic songs, to big, epic songs. Here's some stuff of theirs:

A rather chilling sounding intro:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aQ17mmHJEo&fmt=18

A more epic song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUKxqU0yzIY&fmt=18

One of the early, fast songs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy81-mzwQoE&fmt=18

Coool

Monday, February 15, 2010

Here, this is a very awesome song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&feature=related

Monday, February 15, 2010

vegeta9000 that was one of the best songs I've ever heard it was beautiful *laughing out loud*

Monday, February 15, 2010

Woah, I got Rick rolled.

Saturday, February 20, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWsJcg-g1pg here's a song I haven't posted any new songs so here

edit: one of my favorites http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62diHTKQ-N8&feature=related

Saturday, February 20, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO4LyKd-Hws < this is a good example of what Alex was saying opera mixed with metal. While this isn't normally my type of music I respect it as a sub-genre.