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Denz
Exploitative / Efficient
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 Saturday, May 26, 2012
Zeth wrote :
I'm guessing you are just telling Nello to optimize and not exactly remove the extrusion, correct? Just asking for the point of clarification because a lot of old-school modellers are taught that you should use as few triangles as possible and rely on texturing for details, yet most don't realize why that is/was the standard.
I'm not implying you come from this school of thought nor that comments about reduction (without detail loss) don't hold true. What I'm basically saying is that always going lower-poly in all situations sacrifices silhouette/depth information. Contour definition is often an abasement of quality and thus would be a rather strange aspect to reduce when most low-end machines can crunch hundreds of thousands (more often millions) of triangles a frame with acceptable performance. It's especially ill-advised when you don't have access to GPU shaders and cannot utilize things like normal/parallax/displacement maps -- which would actually be MORE costly and LESS effective in a case like this where you'd lose performance from using them compared to just making the mesh higher-poly.
The only true problem with using large amount of triangles to convey details comes with complexity in the bone weighting/skinning process. With realtime skeletal animations, this would add CPU overhead, but with the case of ZEQ2-lite, it'd be a matter of additional disk/memory usage for each model snapshot.
Basically, I didn't want Nello (or other users) to feel like they should never add details like these when they could be helpful.
He wasted a lot of polygons by modeling details the way he did. There are too many rows of polygons which can be cut down in half without loosing the silhouette.
Old school or not, old computers and new, basic thing is to know how not to waste stuff, mesh, uv/texture, etc, as it will complicate things later on.
If you want I can release my 9k poly Goku if people can handle it in-game.
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NELLO!!
Mitico
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Thursday, July 26, 2012
just don't forget this.. will be finished with the others.. 
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son-kun275
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Friday, July 27, 2012
how's your zarbon going
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NELLO!!
Mitico
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Friday, July 27, 2012
son-kun275 wrote : how's your zarbon going
I need to fix hair details (lines)..
and next I have to do the second form (body) head already done by gigirs50.. also that need fix in the hair..
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ivanhoeGT
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Friday, July 27, 2012
son-kun275 wrote : how's your zarbon going
he's going to be like in the picture
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Kakarot2550
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Tuesday, February 05, 2013
Good Dammn Nello there is no zarbon in SVN can you give it
to me?
Ohh and sorry for Reviving This old Thread!!!!!!!!!!
Well Planned nello:
maybe I will use it!
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Konan
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Tuesday, February 05, 2013
Someday you and Zarbon going to marry..
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Richma
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Tuesday, February 05, 2013
Konan wrote : Someday you and Zarbon going to marry..
and they're going to have a child called Karbon and they're going to live happly never ever even in dreams..
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Kakarot2550
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Tuesday, February 05, 2013
Richma wrote : Konan wrote : Someday you and Zarbon going to marry..
and they're going to have a child called Karbon and they're going to live happly never ever even in dreams..
what the fun???*** I just telling you that I want to rigg
him we aren t real community if we don't do all characters
from Dragon Ball Z!"Rigg him yourself"how could I rigg something I
don't have!!!!Where is the model so that I can rigg
the dammmn creature!!!!!!!!!
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Konan
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Tuesday, February 05, 2013
Kakarot2550 wrote : Richma wrote : Konan wrote : Someday you and Zarbon going to marry..
and they're going to have a child called Karbon and they're going to live happly never ever even in dreams..
what the fun???*** I just telling you that I want to rigg
him we aren t real community if we don't do all characters
from Dragon Ball Z!"Rigg him yourself"how could I rigg something I
don't have!!!!Where is the model so that I can rigg
the dammmn creature!!!!!!!!!
there's anything that you can do by yourself?
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Kakarot2550
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013
Konan wrote : Kakarot2550 wrote : Richma wrote : Konan wrote : Someday you and Zarbon going to marry..
and they're going to have a child called Karbon and they're going to live happly never ever even in dreams..
what the fun???*** I just telling you that I want to rigg
him we aren t real community if we don't do all characters
from Dragon Ball Z!"Rigg him yourself"how could I rigg something I
don't have!!!!Where is the model so that I can rigg
the dammmn creature!!!!!!!!!
there's anything that you can do by yourself?
kick your buttocks in ZEQ2 lite!!!!!! 
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Richma
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013
Do you really need to ruin every thread with your loving zarbon and other requests PM someone don't open a zilion threads for your questions or ask questions in your thread that's somewhere in free forum slam it if I could I would block you from posting anything until you learn that createing a bunch of lacking threads won't help you, you're a spammer definetly 
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Kakarot2550
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013
Richma wrote : Do you really need to ruin every thread with your loving zarbon and other requests PM someone don't open a zilion threads for your questions or ask questions in your thread that's somewhere in free forum slam it if I could I would block you from posting anything until you learn that createing a bunch of lacking threads won't help you, you're a spammer definetly
Yes idiiiot I PM Everybody and nothing and what the heck
my fckukinggg zarbon What do you mean my?
Are you Twistedd!!!
What the Heck do you mean?Every Dragon Ball Z game has Zarbon
because if you guys didn't see it he s in anime called
Dragon Ball Z!!!!!!!!Every normal game has all Dragon Ball Z characters even
fukcinggg mugeen!!!!!!!
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NELLO!!
Mitico
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013
love her 
[url] [/url]
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Konan
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013
Well I got 4PM from kakarot.. *intense laughter*
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Richma
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013
Kakarot2550 wrote : Richma wrote : Do you really need to ruin every thread with your loving zarbon and other requests PM someone don't open a zilion threads for your questions or ask questions in your thread that's somewhere in free forum slam it if I could I would block you from posting anything until you learn that createing a bunch of lacking threads won't help you, you're a spammer definetly
Yes idiiiot I PM Everybody and nothing and what the heck
my fckukinggg zarbon What do you mean my?
Are you Twistedd!!!
What the Heck do you mean?Every Dragon Ball Z game has Zarbon
because if you guys didn't see it he s in anime called
Dragon Ball Z!!!!!!!!Every normal game has all Dragon Ball Z characters even
fukcinggg mugeen!!!!!!!
boy your PM can get your released from here you better watch your mouth one more insult I send it to someone who can get you out of here 
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Kakarot2550
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013
Richma wrote : Kakarot2550 wrote : Richma wrote : Do you really need to ruin every thread with your loving zarbon and other requests PM someone don't open a zilion threads for your questions or ask questions in your thread that's somewhere in free forum slam it if I could I would block you from posting anything until you learn that createing a bunch of lacking threads won't help you, you're a spammer definetly
Yes idiiiot I PM Everybody and nothing and what the heck
my fckukinggg zarbon What do you mean my?
Are you Twistedd!!!
What the Heck do you mean?Every Dragon Ball Z game has Zarbon
because if you guys didn't see it he s in anime called
Dragon Ball Z!!!!!!!!Every normal game has all Dragon Ball Z characters even
fukcinggg mugeen!!!!!!!
boy your PM can get your released from here you better watch your mouth one more insult I send it to someone who can get you out of here
what?you started!!!!!!!!
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Richma
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013
Did I insult you? NO!!! I said do it once more your PM will end to someone who high five you
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Kakarot2550
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013
Richma wrote : Do you really need to ruin every thread with your loving zarbon and other requests PM someone don't open a zilion threads for your questions or ask questions in your thread that's somewhere in free forum slam it if I could I would block you from posting anything until you learn that createing a bunch of lacking threads won't help you, you're a spammer definetly
This isn't an insult:
"Do you really need to ruin every thread with YOUR loving zarbon and other requests" wow nice spech
and what about this:" you're a spammer definetly"
So who insulted who remind me?
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Richma
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013
Kakarot2550 wrote : Richma wrote : Do you really need to ruin every thread with your loving zarbon and other requests PM someone don't open a zilion threads for your questions or ask questions in your thread that's somewhere in free forum slam it if I could I would block you from posting anything until you learn that createing a bunch of lacking threads won't help you, you're a spammer definetly
This isn't an insult:
"Do you really need to ruin every thread with YOUR loving zarbon and other requests" wow nice spech
and what about this:" you're a spammer definetly"
So who insulted who remind me?
Nope none of it, loving zarbon is for zarbon meant and because you're bothering everyone with it, spammer because you create almost everyday a new thread about something that isn't good in any kind you create threads for every request you have and you were already limited with the threads you have your thread in free forum and keep your requests there GOT IT brother 
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Kakarot2550
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013
Richma wrote : Kakarot2550 wrote : Richma wrote : Do you really need to ruin every thread with your loving zarbon and other requests PM someone don't open a zilion threads for your questions or ask questions in your thread that's somewhere in free forum slam it if I could I would block you from posting anything until you learn that createing a bunch of lacking threads won't help you, you're a spammer definetly
This isn't an insult:
"Do you really need to ruin every thread with YOUR loving zarbon and other requests" wow nice spech
and what about this:" you're a spammer definetly"
So who insulted who remind me?
Nope none of it, loving zarbon is for zarbon meant and because you're bothering everyone with it, spammer because you create almost everyday a new thread about something that isn't good in any kind you create threads for every request you have and you were already limited with the threads you have your thread in free forum and keep your requests there GOT IT brother
So I need to stop with making Threads?
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Richma
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013
Yep you could do that look around everyone is on the edge of their nervers because of your threads if you need something go to IRC maybe you'll find help there and keep your requests in your thread
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Kakarot2550
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013
Richma wrote : Yep you could do that look around everyone is on the edge of their nervers because of your threads if you need something go to IRC maybe you'll find help there and keep your requests in your thread
can I PM You about something?
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VLadD
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013
OH MY GOODNESS you all make me mad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Now it's not funny in the forum only loving flood!!!!!!!!Enough guys!!!!!!!
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Richma
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013
VLadD wrote : OH MY GOODNESS you all make me mad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Now it's not funny in the forum only loving flood!!!!!!!!Enough guys!!!!!!!
chill it's done he's going to be a good member from now on
and yes kakaroto you can PM me
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