ZEQ2 Lite

Monday, September 27, 2010

in normal ZEQ2-lite you can see the parts I edit...
and in konan's pack well... you can't see anything...
that is the only different... the visible wireframe...

Yes, but don't you think the visible silhouette outlines make a BIG improvement on the overall quality? I would say it's a tremendous difference!

Also, a couple things I noticed in the comparison.

One is that you seem to be using a different cel-band texture on the non-outlined Nappa (which is making it appear a lot more red in tone) -- that, or your bloom settings are crazy different.

Two is that you should really separate the eyes into a unique material so that you can give it a separate shader that does not use a cel-band texture. Dragon Ball Z eyes typically do not receive lighting as the rest of the areas do. If you really want to enhance the model (and ALL models [including official ZEQ2-lite ones] overall), the best approach is to separate each area (unique material) that has a different color to it and give it a unique cel-band matching the color. You can improve the quality of the presentation CONSIDERABLY ingame with this approach.



This is the same ZEQ2-lite Goku if it was given proper submesh shading. As you can see, the shading on the flesh and GI is a lot more vibrant and pronounced (like the series) because you can apply a unique color band to each part -- that is, an orange cel-band for the GI, a pinkish skin tone cel-band for the flesh, and a blue cel-band for the blue parts. It really does make quite a difference in quality over just using a single cel-band skin color texture for the whole model.

Monday, September 27, 2010

"Yes, but don't you think the visible silhouette outlines make a BIG improvement on the overall quality? I would say it's a tremendous difference!"

yes, much looks better...

"One is that you seem to be using a different cel-band texture..."

well... I was try to see diferents textures/shaders and stuff like that...

"Two is that you should really separate the eyes into a unique material..."

well... the problem is... I have no time to do something really cool in ZEQ2-lite, I mean I have job, girlfriend, school, friends, etc. I mean when I'm trying to do something like put one or two new textures in one character I can't because I forget all that stuff because I have many things to do, I will separate the eyes later, I will put them a normal color and iand stuff like that, anyway I'll be here until October 31, after that day I will have 18 years old, time to do other things... so... in the time I have I will try to do great stuff...

Monday, September 27, 2010

If time is a limiting factor for you, rather than spend what little time you have working on producing content, it might be a better idea to make a mini-guide how-to of what you are doing in the rigging/animating process to help others replicate it and do the same.

Making one guide could teach dozens of people on this site how to rig, animate, export, and setup a ZEQ2-lite character. One very easy way to approach this is to simply record a video of you doing this (with or without audio commentary) from start to finish. I would HIGHLY recommend using livestream (or an equivalent service) for this process as it can EASILY capture everything you are doing, encode it, stream it live, and archive it for later viewing.

A few videos of you doing this work casually as you do it would be all it would take to skyrocket productivity among the others (they'd really have no excuse anymore!)

Postscript : To quote text on these forums, simply select the text while editing and press the "quote" button above the edit box. This will wrap it in [quote] tags.

Monday, September 27, 2010

"If time is a limiting factor for you..."

well... I just work like 5 min in one "new" attack, idle, or stuff like that, so.. sure, I will do a guide, I mean is time to go to the next level, not just the same bad edits...

"Making one guide could teach dozens of people on this site how to rig..."

well... the only programs I'm use is:
milkshape 3D (Earth Special Forces models)
misfit model 3D (edit animations)
nothing more nothing less...

"A few videos of you doing this work..."

well... I have a limit computer (not for the graphic, for the space), I mean I have to much stuff in my computer and I have like... I don't know, little space... like 3 gb to free space...

"To quote text on these forums..."

I know how, but I have my own style hahahaha

Monday, September 27, 2010

well... the only programs I'm use is:
milkshape 3D (Earth Special Forces models)
misfit model 3D (edit animations)
nothing more nothing less...

That's fine. The software you use is completely up to you.

well... I have a limit computer (not for the graphic, for the space), I mean I have to much stuff in my computer and I have like... I don't know, little space... like 3 gb to free space...

That's more than enough. When using livestream, you don't have to store ANY videos locally. All of the data is automatically streamed to their servers -- saving you any overhead you might have from using something like fraps or another local tool.

I know how, but I have my own style hahahaha

Hah. Doh. Couldn't you at least use the "code" tag or so? It's just so darn hard to read the quotation marks when they are bundled up like that!

Tuesday, September 28, 2010

I still don't understand separating the eyes into an unique material , and what means cel-band ??

Tuesday, September 28, 2010

Bad edits?! You crazy..I love your Gogeta!

Tuesday, September 28, 2010

Wow Nice Update's AnTycrisT Now Nappa Is Fantastic! Nice Job On The Face/Head And The Move's Keep Updating Us

Tuesday, September 28, 2010

release !!

Tuesday, September 28, 2010

Malek *intense laughter* Chill *laughing out loud* he's Adding Some New Moves And Texturing The Player But release Very soon

Tuesday, September 28, 2010

That's more than enough...

okay, I will download that later, I mean I have one month so...

Hah. Doh. Couldn't you at least use the "code"...

okay, now I will post like this...
konan, well... I was talking about norman and people like that...
xXDBZXx, thanks
Malek, yes, later (when I finish)

Tuesday, September 28, 2010

AnTycrisT wrote :

That's more than enough...

okay, I will download that later, I mean I have one month so...

Hah. Doh. Couldn't you at least use the "code"...

okay, now I will post like this...
konan, well... I was talking about norman and people like that...
xXDBZXx, thanks
Malek, yes, later (when I finish)

can you give Goku the small Spirit Bomb animation and attack

Tuesday, September 28, 2010

can you give Goku the small Spirit Bomb animation and attack Surprised Very Happy

well... I will work in Goku when I'm finish this Nappa...

Tuesday, September 28, 2010

AnTycrisT wrote :

can you give Goku the small Spirit Bomb animation and attack Surprised Very Happy

well... I will work in Goku when I'm finish this Nappa...

goooooooooood

is your Raditz already released? give link please

Tuesday, September 28, 2010

DaGGeR wrote :

AnTycrisT wrote :

can you give Goku the small Spirit Bomb animation and attack Surprised Very Happy

well... I will work in Goku when I'm finish this Nappa...

goooooooooood :*laughing out loud*:

is your Raditz already released? give link please

in this pag. is the donload link and some pictures:
http://www.ZEQ2.com/lite/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2845&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=175
and my 5 min work Piccolo

Tuesday, September 28, 2010

Malek wrote : I still don't understand separating the eyes into an unique material , and what means cel-band ??

It's hard to explain in simple terms, but basically you make the eyes a separate object within the MD3 and give it a different name, then adjust the shader and skin files to reference it.

The cel-band is what tells the rendering engine what colors to use for shading the character.(for example, the well lit areas of Goku's skin, versus the shadowed areas on his skin) In other words, the cel-band makes everything look cel-shaded, and thus look like a cartoon.

Wednesday, November 09, 2011

wow I still like this Nappa..

Wednesday, November 09, 2011

NELLO!! wrote : wow I still like this Nappa..

Why are you reviving old threads?
Seriously?

Wednesday, November 09, 2011

Because he would like to express that he likes that model and would perhaps engage in a conversation with AnTy into sharing it with everyone else?

Why are you so cereal?

Wednesday, November 09, 2011

AnthonyAT33 wrote : Because he would like to express that he likes that model and would perhaps engage in a conversation with AnTy into sharing it with everyone else?

Why are you so cereal?

And why are you so blindly Lacking?! Look at the date you fool! he has been reviving 3 threads so far. Yes we should all do it! /sarcasm

Wednesday, November 09, 2011

LegendarySS4 wrote :

AnthonyAT33 wrote : Because he would like to express that he likes that model and would perhaps engage in a conversation with AnTy into sharing it with everyone else?

Why are you so cereal?

And why are you so blindly Lacking?! Look at the date you fool! he has been reviving 3 threads so far. Yes we should all do it! /sarcasm

Remember what Brad said?

Thread revival is fine as long as it has something to do with subject.

Wednesday, November 09, 2011

Linkxp500 wrote :

LegendarySS4 wrote :

AnthonyAT33 wrote : Because he would like to express that he likes that model and would perhaps engage in a conversation with AnTy into sharing it with everyone else?

Why are you so cereal?

And why are you so blindly Lacking?! Look at the date you fool! he has been reviving 3 threads so far. Yes we should all do it! /sarcasm

Remember what Brad said?

Thread revival is fine as long as it has something to do with subject.

So randomly saying.. "I still like this Nappa" is good? well it is good but with how old this thread is, he didn't contribute... no download, nothing! Just lacking in identifiable function comment.

Wednesday, November 09, 2011

Then your argument should be: "If you are going to revive the thread, why don't you contribute to the subject?"

That is an entirely different argument, and more acceptable for the situation.

Wednesday, November 09, 2011

NELLO!! wrote : wow I still like this Nappa..

okay, well... I'm working in a new version for Nappa, you can check the updates (after I put them) in the thread "SVN characters"... you will see a couple of new stuff for each character (new or old release), of course I need time, anyway be ready for this...

Thursday, May 31, 2012

megaupload is dead other link??