ZEQ2 Lite

Wednesday, May 02, 2012

@RealDeal
shut your hole woman.

@Others

Wednesday, May 02, 2012

Too much hype,he doesn't understands,its his problem.

Wednesday, May 02, 2012

TRL wrote : You have a problem with strictness. I'm expressing the truth about this matter in this manner. There's not a single offensive term in there. You ARE ignorant about why these voluntary donations make sense. And for being here so long, you don't know half of the inner workings of this organization.

If you want me to be offensive. You're probably the biggest leech around here. You have contributed nihil, zilch, nada. And now you're making a fuss over people who do want to help! Crawl in your shell and hide..

oh please dude stop it........you're the last person I will take advice from.I told you use this all to yourself.I haven't contributed anything here.but overall I bring in people here directly or indirectly......
so please if you think for one second you have much greater than me that will only be here.....

And I am not making a fuss about people paying here...
if they want they can pay but the main people should take the lead

whoah RD.. Did someone say donating was compulsary?

Besides without these forums I'd never have known about the various things regarding game development. And about the alternatives hosting and as such, I think Brad knows of all the possibilties and he knows what's best for this site and community.

well donate then I never stopped you....my argument was never over you guys donating

Agreed! This project was a big influence in my life and helped me get a lot better.
And RealDeal, no offense, and don't lie to this question, what influenced you to create your website?

I made it for the fans dude so they don't have problems in finding games 1 by 1.....

RealDeal, even though you said that you created your website for the profit of the people, did it cost you money? And if it did, was it a one-time payment? The issue here is, you volunteered to benefit others, while this site here is more like others volunteering to benefit themselves.

There is a distinct and fundamental difference here. There are those who expect information and content to be provided to them, and those that intend to earn information and content.

You have seen those new guys asking for links and asking really odd questions or creating over-the-top random topics, correct? Those people resemble those that expect things to be given to them, just like your site encourages.

Wouldn't you want so many more people that knew how to think in the world rather than the kids that run around the web spouting trash into their posts?

After you created your yolasite, eventually you would stop maintaining it for various reasons. But you find that others do not want it to die. You can't just leave the site up, because there would be no way to keep it up to date, and you have no choice but to pass the torch to another reliable web user. The new admin appointed by you now has an obligation to maintain the site, but he/she can't always rely on you to get the latest info on Dragon Ball Z games, because you have a life that doesn't allow for much online interaction.

The case is similar here. Brad and MDave no longer have an interest in maintaining the site, because they get nothing out of it. We, the community, are the new admins (not literally), and we must improve ourselves and explore new concepts. If we want to continue to improve in this most favorable environment, we must have some way to maintain it. Brad and MDave can't always be relied on; they aren't our support beam that we are tied to, they are crutches to support us until we can walk on our own. They give us guidance, not assistance, unless you count asking questions that let us know exactly what steps are needed to take. They don't hold our hand as we develop 3D models.

Also, I plan on getting a little job pretty soon, and I'll set aside some money to donate to the site. I don't want this place to fall apart.

MY site is free and might stay like that for a long time.It is a total spoonfeeding site
yes people need to find stuff for themselves but I want to give stuff to them readymade that's just how I role

Very sad to see how ZEQ2 LITE has no leader and no team

@neils
you must be lacking if you think I am a woman

@epic
I read everything

Wednesday, May 02, 2012

if they want they can pay but the main people should take the lead
Very sad to see how ZEQ2 LITE has no leader and no team

See, this is where you misunderstand. ZEQ2-lite NEVER in its entire lifetime had a team or "leader". Ever. That was made very clear even on the first blog posts. You've just assumed this whole time that some organized group of people are managing the strings behind the scenes when that has NEVER been the case.

The whole reason Dave and I branched off the older Quake 3 iteration of ZEQ2 to form ZEQ2-lite was because we LACKED the time we had back in the day and wanted very specifically to let everything fall in the community's hands.

I haven't contributed anything here.but overall I bring in people here directly or indirectly......
so please if you think for one second you have much greater than me that will only be here.....

Except this was never the goal. It's actually the OPPOSITE of the goal of ZEQ2-lite. ZEQ2-lite wasn't created to become this popular PC game for Dragon Ball Z fanatics. It was created as a development aid -- which it has served as a purpose.

Any kind of promotion and spreading of "the word" has actually been VERY discouraged. Just ask Domitjen. We wanted a tight-knit, small community of committed individuals focused on development as opposed to tens of thousands of pre-teen Dragon Ball Z extremists that just pass through and barely participate. If popularity and exposure were goals, we'd have accepted some of the radio interviews, magazine articles, and widely visible spotlights that were offered in the past.

Wednesday, May 02, 2012

Zeth wrote :

if they want they can pay but the main people should take the lead
Very sad to see how ZEQ2 LITE has no leader and no team

See, this is where you misunderstand. ZEQ2-lite NEVER in its entire lifetime had a team or "leader". Ever. That was made very clear even on the first blog posts. You've just assumed this whole time that some organized group of people are managing the strings behind the scenes when that has NEVER been the case.

The whole reason Dave and I branched off the older Quake 3 iteration of ZEQ2 to form ZEQ2-lite was because we LACKED the time we had back in the day and wanted very specifically to let everything fall in the community's hands.

I haven't contributed anything here.but overall I bring in people here directly or indirectly......
so please if you think for one second you have much greater than me that will only be here.....

Except this was never the goal. It's actually the OPPOSITE of the goal of ZEQ2-lite. ZEQ2-lite wasn't created to become this popular PC game for Dragon Ball Z fanatics. It was created as a development aid -- which it has served as a purpose.

Any kind of promotion and spreading of "the word" has actually been VERY discouraged. Just ask Domitjen. We wanted a tight-knit, small community of committed individuals focused on development as opposed to tens of thousands of pre-teen Dragon Ball Z extremists that just pass through and barely participate. If popularity and exposure were goals, we'd have accepted some of the radio interviews, magazine articles, and widely visible spotlights that were offered in the past.

understood.........

Wednesday, May 02, 2012

No catharsis at all.

Wednesday, May 02, 2012

Epic wrote :

Epic, this gif is epic! *intense laughter*

Thursday, May 03, 2012

Yep, it is. Used to use that all the time

Thursday, May 03, 2012

LegendarySS4 wrote : Yep, it is. Used to use that all the time

*laughing out loud*, then you're more epic than epic!!!

Thursday, May 03, 2012

divinemaniac wrote :

LegendarySS4 wrote : Yep, it is. Used to use that all the time

*laughing out loud*, then you're more epic than epic!!!

Nope.

Thursday, May 03, 2012

Guys just give him a break.Chill out.This thread was made for people who couldn't donate because of their own personal problems and other reasons.Just chill out.

Thursday, May 03, 2012

Epic wrote :

divinemaniac wrote :

LegendarySS4 wrote : Yep, it is. Used to use that all the time

*laughing out loud*, then you're more epic than epic!!!

Nope.

You know I am

Thursday, May 03, 2012

Hmmm,I smell a conspiracy here.

Thursday, May 03, 2012

GoldenWarrior wrote : are you kidding me, there arguing about donation, here's a better thought, go and donate to the poor
(but yes sorry, its kind of discomforting seeing them talk about trash)

So, we should donate to people who don't have money because they were either too lacking to save some for emergencies or too lazy to support themselves so that they would leech off other people's and governments' money? I think not.

I only donate to people who are known to be willing to work and just need a small boost. If I donate to people who don't do so, they get no more money from me.

Thursday, May 03, 2012

Linkxp500 wrote :

GoldenWarrior wrote : are you kidding me, there arguing about donation, here's a better thought, go and donate to the poor
(but yes sorry, its kind of discomforting seeing them talk about trash)

So, we should donate to people who don't have money because they were either too lacking to save some for emergencies or too lazy to support themselves so that they would leech off other people's and governments' money? I think not.

I only donate to people who are known to be willing to work and just need a small boost. If I donate to people who don't do so, they get no more money from me.

No I think he means the people who really are poor with no way to either start schooling and work for less a month that you would probably get in a day.

Thursday, May 03, 2012

Grega wrote :

Linkxp500 wrote :

GoldenWarrior wrote : are you kidding me, there arguing about donation, here's a better thought, go and donate to the poor
(but yes sorry, its kind of discomforting seeing them talk about trash)

So, we should donate to people who don't have money because they were either too lacking to save some for emergencies or too lazy to support themselves so that they would leech off other people's and governments' money? I think not.

I only donate to people who are known to be willing to work and just need a small boost. If I donate to people who don't do so, they get no more money from me.

No I think he means the people who really are poor with no way to either start schooling and work for less a month that you would probably get in a day.

That would fall under the category of too lacking to set money aside for critical situations.

Trust me, there's more harm than good done by assisting the poor (as a whole). Mainly because you can't just know out of the blue if they are genuine in their desire to work, unless you get to know them.

Thursday, May 03, 2012

TRL wrote : No catharsis at all.

you still here........I have understood the situation here so have some decency and get on with your life

Thursday, May 03, 2012

Linkxp500 wrote :

Grega wrote :

Linkxp500 wrote :

GoldenWarrior wrote : are you kidding me, there arguing about donation, here's a better thought, go and donate to the poor
(but yes sorry, its kind of discomforting seeing them talk about trash)

So, we should donate to people who don't have money because they were either too lacking to save some for emergencies or too lazy to support themselves so that they would leech off other people's and governments' money? I think not.

I only donate to people who are known to be willing to work and just need a small boost. If I donate to people who don't do so, they get no more money from me.

No I think he means the people who really are poor with no way to either start schooling and work for less a month that you would probably get in a day.

That would fall under the category of too lacking to set money aside for critical situations.

Trust me, there's more harm than good done by assisting the poor (as a whole). Mainly because you can't just know out of the blue if they are genuine in their desire to work, unless you get to know them.

How is that the same?

You have people working entire days for a handful of rice or something like that. don't base world society on your local experience.

Thursday, May 03, 2012

Yeah, there are also homeless people in New York that are walking WiFi Hot-spots.

Thursday, May 03, 2012

Yeah that's pretty close minded of you Link, a lot of people in third world countries just don't get any chances. And that can start all the way to the top because of corrupt governments.
Also take in account that companies in your first world country help sustain those injustices like for instance apple and their labor camps in China, where young adults are just lured away far from their homes to work inhumane hours for minimal pay and don't have anywhere else to go since they eat and sleep in those remotely located camps. It's basically slavery with pay because their freedom of choice is taken away.

Thursday, May 03, 2012

Grega wrote :

Linkxp500 wrote :

Grega wrote :

Linkxp500 wrote :

GoldenWarrior wrote : are you kidding me, there arguing about donation, here's a better thought, go and donate to the poor
(but yes sorry, its kind of discomforting seeing them talk about trash)

So, we should donate to people who don't have money because they were either too lacking to save some for emergencies or too lazy to support themselves so that they would leech off other people's and governments' money? I think not.

I only donate to people who are known to be willing to work and just need a small boost. If I donate to people who don't do so, they get no more money from me.

No I think he means the people who really are poor with no way to either start schooling and work for less a month that you would probably get in a day.

That would fall under the category of too lacking to set money aside for critical situations.

Trust me, there's more harm than good done by assisting the poor (as a whole). Mainly because you can't just know out of the blue if they are genuine in their desire to work, unless you get to know them.

How is that the same?

You have people working entire days for a handful of rice or something like that. don't base world society on your local experience.

Well, there may be some that were manipulated by corrupt business, but there are also some that do not think ahead. You can't feel sorry for everyone. Some of them deserve it, though I can't say I like the thought of them living miserably. I don't like people being miserable, but I don't like people who choose to ignore possible unfortunate events that could befall them.

If they did all they could to avoid it and still aren't able to avoid it, yeah, I would help them out. But you cannot hold them to standards lower than the rest of society.

Friday, May 04, 2012

Linkxp500 wrote : But you cannot hold them to standards lower than the rest of society.

The standard of society in the years of the US colonization was "If your black, then you're a slave with less rights than the family dog"

The standard today is "If you come from the back batch of third world countries, you are a legal slave unless you are an athlete, in which case you are only useful until you are in shape and are cast aside once you get to old"

And here is a nifty little tidbit. There are more people living in such conditions than there are people living in "society standard" conditions. All that not counting the people of the civilized nations who don't want to work of course.

Even today kids are sold in to slavery so the rest of the family has something to eat. And you are saying that in the majority of those cases its their own fault?

Friday, May 04, 2012

I agree with Grega on this one. Your attitude is closing in on bigotry, Link.

Of course you're in the easy position to pass judgment, but imagine if it were the other way around. You'd like to be given a chance and not be instantly dismissed because of prejudice.

Friday, May 04, 2012

I stand with Grega too on the issue

There are lots of malnourished Kids everywhere in our locality/any for that matter. How can they be held responsible for their situation?

and Link,how can you say some people deserve poverty??? that's just ridiculous..

Friday, May 04, 2012

Grega wrote :
The standard of society in the years of the US colonization was "If your black, then you're a slave with less rights than the family dog"

The standard today is "If you come from the back batch of third world countries, you are a legal slave unless you are an athlete, in which case you are only useful until you are in shape and are cast aside once you get to old"

And here is a nifty little tidbit. There are more people living in such conditions than there are people living in "society standard" conditions. All that not counting the people of the civilized nations who don't want to work of course.

Even today kids are sold in to slavery so the rest of the family has something to eat. And you are saying that in the majority of those cases its their own fault?

Agreed. and some people, they do dangerous jobs in factories because of their conditions, and in the process, they lose their limbs, develop uncureable wounds(or which they can't pay to cure). ANd in this condition, they cannot work! If we look down at them, then they have no way to survive.