ZEQ2 Lite

Wednesday, May 26, 2010

as most of you know chromegloss55 and msdbzbabe are very famous on youtube for all their Dragon Ball Z stuff.

I contacted them and they are going to promote us on their youtube channels!

so ZEQ2 will have a massive increase of players = more community = more contributors = faster updates if this all works out

There will be thousands of Goku's connecting with spirit spam YAAY :p

here's the convo

[17:39:36] chromegloss: Okay
[17:39:38] chromegloss: we talked bout it
[17:39:43] chromegloss: Well
[17:39:43] domitjen: yes
[17:39:45] chromegloss: still talking about
[17:40:03] domitjen: you are keeping me in suspense
[17:40:57] domitjen: is it on skype or is she near you? else you could add her?
[17:41:01] chromegloss: Alright
[17:41:05] chromegloss: I'll tell you what we decided.
[17:41:21] chromegloss: We'll do it.
[17:41:26] domitjen: holy love thanks
[17:41:27] chromegloss: We'll write and animate and voice act a trailer for you.
[17:41:31] chromegloss: BUT
[17:41:39] chromegloss: There's a couple of things I have to say
[17:41:50] domitjen: yes?
[17:41:51] chromegloss: One, this is something we rarely ever, ever, ever, EVER, EVERRRRRRRR do.
[17:42:03] domitjen: yes I won't ever ask again if that's what you mean
[17:42:25] chromegloss: Well we'll see what happens, but if we took requests then we'd be overloaded *laughing out loud*
[17:42:28] domitjen: yeah I know
[17:42:37] chromegloss: But we both looked at your trailer
[17:42:43] chromegloss: and we both think you're very talented.
[17:42:55] domitjen: so you are fine with the part where first Vegeta and Trunks have a dialogue about it, and then afterwards you show my trailer?
[17:42:57] domitjen: well thinks
[17:43:09] chromegloss: Well, we'll work out the exact details
[17:43:13] chromegloss: later on
[17:43:17] chromegloss: Second thing
[17:43:17] domitjen: okay
[17:43:42] chromegloss: is that I'll upload it on my channel and Maria will favorite it and put it on the front page of hers. She doesn't want to upload it. She has her reasons for that.
[17:43:54] domitjen: ah to bad
[17:43:56] domitjen: but no problem
[17:43:58] domitjen: I'm already happy
[17:44:02] chromegloss: *intense laughter*
[17:44:13] chromegloss: Last thing
[17:44:14] domitjen: you made one guy very happy sir
[17:44:17] chromegloss: is that you're going to hafta tell me
[17:44:18] domitjen: o trash another thing?:p
[17:44:20] domitjen: yes?
[17:44:22] chromegloss: the unique features of your game
[17:44:26] chromegloss: so that I can stress them
[17:44:30] chromegloss: when making the video
[17:44:38] domitjen: Sure
[17:44:41] chromegloss: Anyway
[17:44:42] chromegloss: that's it
[17:44:42] domitjen: I'll send them later on
[17:44:43] chromegloss: so yeah
[17:44:45] chromegloss: we'll do it *laughing out loud*
[17:44:56] domitjen: Thank you very very much
[17:44:59] domitjen: cannot expres it anymore
[17:45:07] domitjen: o stuff, I had to ask from someone
[17:45:14] domitjen: I forgot
[17:45:28] domitjen: anyway you can contact camron if he would upload it as well? ( just a question from someone )
[17:45:50] chromegloss: I'll ask him
[17:46:31] domitjen: Thanks a lot
[17:46:36] chromegloss: No problem
[17:47:08] domitjen: So, I can expect to contact you around this weekend?
[17:47:31] chromegloss: yeah, I should be on at some point
[17:47:42] domitjen: okay
[17:47:43] domitjen: great
[17:47:45] domitjen: thanks a lot
[17:47:53] domitjen: I'll leave you alone now
[17:47:57] domitjen: don't forget to ask camron
[17:47:58] domitjen: see you
[17:48:13] chromegloss: see you.
[17:48:17] chromegloss: and sorry bout the slow responses
[17:48:21] domitjen: if there is anything I can do for you just let me know
[17:48:26] domitjen: no problem, sorry bout all the whining:p
[17:48:27] chromegloss: It's not me being a douche or anything *laughing out loud*
[17:48:31] domitjen: just a jerk:p
[17:48:33] domitjen: nah kidding
[17:48:41] chromegloss: I'll admit I'm jerk *laughing out loud*
[17:48:41] chromegloss: But
[17:48:52] chromegloss: Just been under a lot of stress lately
[17:48:57] chromegloss: So yeah
[17:49:02] chromegloss: When I'm more relaxed
[17:49:05] chromegloss: we'll talk bout this in more detail
[17:49:10] domitjen: okay
[17:49:13] domitjen: Great
[17:49:14] domitjen: thanks
[17:49:14] domitjen: see you
[17:51:19] domitjen: o
[17:51:22] domitjen: say thanks to dbzbabe fro mme
[17:52:18] chromegloss: she says you're welcome
[17:52:18] chromegloss: *intense laughter*
[17:53:52] domitjen: you better save what I'm about to say
[17:54:12] domitjen:
It is based on the ioquake3 engine.
Really moddable, starting from customizable particle, weapon, weapon graphics system and character tier system.
[17:54:39] domitjen: Stepped-shader support with dynamic over-exposure, which will totally be computed using the GPU, thanks to the GLSL support
[17:55:47] chromegloss: o.o;
[17:55:53] domitjen: Wireframe and vertex normal extrusion outline techniques
[17:56:14] domitjen: Very dynamic music system, which you can customize it to set which event plays which sound track
[17:57:25] domitjen: Character-conformed aura, currently tag-based, which will be replaced with skeletal based ones using the new zMesh format (which is superior and more feature complete version of MD4)
[17:57:43] domitjen: Power struggling system, which looks really in-place visually.
[17:58:48] chromegloss: o.o;
[17:58:51] chromegloss: This all sounds great.
[17:58:58] chromegloss: But obviously we'll need to simplify it a bit *laughing out loud*
[17:59:00] domitjen: Power jumping support, along with the ability to ball flip while jumping.
Free direction teleportation (Zanzoken) support
[17:59:05] domitjen: you asked for it mate:p
[17:59:11] chromegloss: True.
[17:59:12] chromegloss: *laughing out loud*
[17:59:12] domitjen: that's why I said you had to save
[17:59:27] chromegloss: Okay well I tihnk I have an idea.
[17:59:35] chromegloss: Of what could be done.
[17:59:46] chromegloss: I'd need footage of the game though
[17:59:49] chromegloss: very specific footage
[17:59:52] domitjen: that's what the trailer is for?
[17:59:58] chromegloss: Yeah
[18:00:00] chromegloss: my idea
[18:00:01] chromegloss: would be
[18:00:03] chromegloss: To have Trunks
[18:00:08] chromegloss: actually be playing this game
[18:00:14] chromegloss: Then have Vegeta walk in
[18:00:14] domitjen: please don't tell me that you won't use the trailer
[18:00:15] domitjen: aha
[18:00:23] chromegloss: That way
[18:00:27] chromegloss: we can show off the game's features
[18:00:31] chromegloss: while still keeping it funny
[18:00:34] chromegloss: Then at the end
[18:00:39] domitjen: and then afterwards my trailer?
[18:00:41] chromegloss: you can have the trailer
[18:00:50] domitjen: aha
[18:00:52] domitjen: by the way more features
[18:00:53] domitjen: oaring mode (which is unique over normal or turbo flying), enhances speed, but sacrifices the ability to fire any attacks (with barrel rolls, loops, and so forth)
Working mêlée system with speed, stun, charge, and braker variations for highly tactical and visually accurate presentation from the series (will be improved in the future version)
[18:00:56] domitjen: Soaring mode *
[18:01:03] domitjen: so
[18:01:06] domitjen: gamefootage
[18:01:13] domitjen: what would you want?
[18:01:15] domitjen: beambattles?
[18:01:17] domitjen: struggle
[18:01:23] domitjen: o what about Vegeta vs Goku
[18:01:26] domitjen: and Vegeta walks in
[18:01:28] domitjen: and he's like
[18:01:31] domitjen: What? That's me?
[18:01:34] domitjen: or I don't know, my humor vacuums
[18:01:56] chromegloss: Well you can leave the humor up to me *laughing out loud*
[18:02:01] chromegloss: I'll tell you what clips I need
[18:02:02] domitjen: *laughing out loud*
[18:02:05] chromegloss: once I write a script
[18:02:07] domitjen: okay
[18:02:29] domitjen: Highly rich powerlevel system, tier based ability enhances the experience, meaning that you will have more powerlevel when in higher tier forms (I.e Super Saiyan 1/2/3), which drastically increases your attributes, along with your powerlevel value)
[18:02:45] chromegloss: out of interest
[18:02:47] chromegloss: how many people
[18:02:50] chromegloss: are working on zhis?
[18:02:53] domitjen: well
[18:02:55] domitjen: its open source
[18:02:58] domitjen: so everyone can
[18:03:00] domitjen: but the team itself is
[18:03:05] domitjen: around 10 people
[18:03:58] domitjen: open source means that everyone can use every data off the game and create models maps, if it meets ZEQ2 lite standards, then it might be implemented in a next update
[18:04:11] chromegloss: Well that's an important point
[18:04:17] chromegloss: I'll hafta get it across in this video
[18:04:41] domitjen: one last feauture
[18:04:42] domitjen: Hard lock-on targeting system, which brings you to a one-on-one focused fightning scenario, meaning that you will able to concentrate all your abilities to one enemy only (until you temporarely disable it or brake free from it)
Many signature and/or unique skills (attacks) per character, more will be added soon (currently up to 64 skills in the development version)
[18:04:49] domitjen: I think that's enough ?:p
[18:04:57] domitjen: but the important thing is to let them know
[18:05:01] domitjen: that Public beta 2 is coming
[18:05:09] chromegloss: Well
[18:05:10] domitjen: since public beta 1 is already out but still with bugs
[18:05:10] chromegloss: I'll release
[18:05:14] chromegloss: when you have Public Beta 2
[18:05:16] chromegloss: up and running
[18:05:17] domitjen: no no no
[18:05:24] domitjen: that's not the idea at all
[18:05:27] domitjen: it could be a year:p
[18:05:29] domitjen: before that
[18:05:40] chromegloss: But are these features in Public Beta 1?
[18:05:42] domitjen: yes
[18:05:49] domitjen: all these features are already in Public Beta 1
[18:05:50] chromegloss: Oh right, good *laughing out loud*
[18:05:56] domitjen: you don't want me to start bout Public Beta 2
[18:06:00] chromegloss: *laughing out loud*
[18:06:03] domitjen: each character will have 64 seperate mêlée stuff
[18:06:48] chromegloss: so it's public right?
[18:06:49] chromegloss: Which means
[18:06:52] chromegloss: if I wanted to play it
[18:06:52] chromegloss: right now
[18:06:53] chromegloss: I could
[18:06:53] chromegloss: =3
[18:07:37] domitjen: yes
[18:07:56] domitjen: but you have to study man
[18:07:58] domitjen: thaha:p
[18:08:18] chromegloss: Well give me the link
[18:08:23] chromegloss: so I can have a go when I have time
[18:08:36] domitjen: okay
[18:08:43] domitjen: but don't forget, that's just public beta 1
[18:08:53] domitjen: http://ZEQ2.com/lite/?page_id=33
[18:10:13] chromegloss: alrigth
[18:10:14] chromegloss: alright
[18:10:36] domitjen: if yo uwant to play online
[18:10:38] domitjen: contact me on irc
[18:10:40] domitjen: I'll set up a server
[18:10:48] domitjen: the controls are kind of hard in beginning, but there is a manual on the site
[18:10:53] domitjen: this game has a lot of potential
[18:10:56] domitjen: but needs to be known
[18:10:57] domitjen: thanks man
[18:10:57] domitjen: really
[18:10:59] domitjen: thanks
[18:11:03] domitjen: I appreciate it
[18:13:37] chromegloss: Not a problem

Wednesday, May 26, 2010

Haha why did you insist on using your trailer, it could've worked just as well with them using actual ingame footage with the sounds that Vegeta and Goku are playing and would've been pretty funny.

I think your ego doesn't have a place in this. The respect you get for doing this should be enough.

Anyway that features info, sounds like the technical mumbo jumbo Zeth would spit out.
Funny how the guy said it would have to be simplified.

Wednesday, May 26, 2010

TRL wrote : Haha why did you insist on using your trailer, it could've worked just as well with them using actual ingame footage with the sounds that Vegeta and Goku are playing and would've been pretty funny.

I think your ego doesn't have a place in this. The respect you get for doing this should be enough.

Anyway that features info, sounds like the technical mumbo jumbo Zeth would spit out.
Funny how the guy said it would have to be simplified.

it was jadenkorns mumbo jumbo:p

And I insisted on the trailer cause I think it would be a perfect ending for that video. What he was implying was other gameplay footage and then end it with my trailer, which I first seemed confused bout but then makes perfectly sence.

I deserve my ego :p

Wednesday, May 26, 2010

How awesome!Domitjen you rule(not atcual usage of word filter *laughing out loud*)ZEQ2-lite will become very popular yay!

anyway you can contact camron if he would upload it as well? ( just a question from someone )

Wednesday, May 26, 2010

Your ego is nonexisting here!!

This is about the project.

Wednesday, May 26, 2010

TRL wrote : Your ego is nonexisting here!!

This is about the project.

my ego excists around the universe my friend

Wednesday, May 26, 2010

There are very good reasons ZEQ2 never excepted the offers (that were made) for gaming magazine articles and radio/web talk-show interviews.

Additionally, this promotion of yours should have waited until after the release of Public Beta 2 so that the server browser -- at least, would be resolved.

Domitjen, why don't you contact GameRanger and have them add ZEQ2-lite to their list? (although I'm sure playing it as Quake 3 would work equally fine)

Wednesday, May 26, 2010

Zeth wrote : There are very good reasons ZEQ2 never excepted the offers (that were made) for gaming magazine articles and radio/web talk-show interviews.

Additionally, this promotion of yours should have waited until after the release of Public Beta 2 so that the server browser -- at least, would be resolved.

Domitjen, why don't you contact GameRanger and have them add ZEQ2-lite to their list? (although I'm sure playing it as Quake 3 would work equally fine)

Because I want us to reach a bigger fanbase before Public Beta 2 comes out, it's due to come out around september. (so I hear if everything goes fine)
So few months on forehand of promotion won't harm anything.

I did this for the community, not to upset you. It's just , I know that a lot of people are searching a Dragon Ball Z pc game that is free that is not 2D trash and this game really needs to be known in the world, it has great potential, you have no idea what you are creating here. This is something every Dragon Ball Z fan wants.

Wednesday, May 26, 2010

He knows and it's not that he's ungrateful for your promotion. He just fears the results of to much attention being drawn to a semi-legal project, especially during a time where Dragonball returns to the screen on a large scale.

Basically by making ZEQ2 Lite known you're giving Funi and co. an opportunity to shut it down before it makes a proper release (which would be their biggest concern).

Wednesday, May 26, 2010

void wrote : He knows and it's not that he's ungrateful for your promotion. He just fears the results of to much attention being drawn to a semi-legal project, especially during a time where Dragonball returns to the screen on a large scale.

Basically by making ZEQ2 Lite known you're giving Funi and co. an opportunity to shut it down before it makes a proper release (which would be their biggest concern).

There are enough trailers on youtube, mine won't make THAT much a difference. Besides. What about earth special forces? Everyone knows about that Dragon Ball Z game and still isn't shut down.

Wednesday, May 26, 2010

Perhaps, but realize that the sword of fame that you are swinging is two-edged for good reason. Yes, fans will likely flock in and be attracted, but there are other individuals/groups that could be attracted as well -- people that may feel threatened or intimidated for whatever reasons.

Wednesday, May 26, 2010

Zeth wrote : Perhaps, but realize that the sword of fame that you are swinging is two-edged for good reason. Yes, fans will likely flock in and be attracted, but there are other individuals/groups that could be attracted as well. People that may feel threatened or intimidated for whatever reasons.

I'm sorry, but I won't back down from this. I put a lot of time in it. the whole world knows bout Earth Special Forces and neither funimation or toei has knocked them down. This game will be known eventually, matter of time.

Wednesday, May 26, 2010

I'm sorry, but I won't back down from this. I put a lot of time in it. the whole world knows bout Earth Special Forces and neither funimation or toei has knocked them down. This game will be known eventually, matter of time.

No one said you should back down. Just be prepared to take the good with the bad, that's all.

What about earth special forces? Everyone knows about that Dragon Ball Z game and still isn't shut down.

The difference is that Earth Special Forces is JUST now getting to the point where it can compete visually and mechanically to commercial products of the same caliber as the official games whereas ZEQ2 has been floating that dangerous line for some time now.

An infringing concept is not usually targeted unless it can be shown to effect profits negatively in some way.

Wednesday, May 26, 2010

Zeth wrote :

I'm sorry, but I won't back down from this. I put a lot of time in it. the whole world knows bout Earth Special Forces and neither funimation or toei has knocked them down. This game will be known eventually, matter of time.

No one said you should back down. Just be prepared to take the good with the bad, that's all.

What about earth special forces? Everyone knows about that Dragon Ball Z game and still isn't shut down.

The difference is that Earth Special Forces is JUST now getting to the point where it can compete visually and mechanically to commercial products of the same caliber as the official games whereas ZEQ2 has been floating that dangerous line for some time now.

I will take the good with the bad. This will give a positive outcome. You have my word for it. If there seems to be a threath I'll put everything down at once. But so far we don't have to worry for a thing.

Wednesday, May 26, 2010

Yeah Earth Special Forces never was a real threat artistic quality wise. Anyway we have yet to see the results.

Wednesday, May 26, 2010

We've seen Bid For Power getting shut down and that letter wasn't pretty.

Earth Special Forces was never really popular to begin with and when it finally was the "damage" was already done (which is probably why Zeth mentioned Public Beta 2's release).

YouTube is a very dangerous platform in this situation as it is scanned automatically for certain keywords and the second Dragon Ball Kai gets released to NA you can bet your buttocks that they'll increase their efforts to stop episodes from being uploaded.

There's a difference between a few Public Beta 1 videos showing fights and a big trailer announcing a feature list which surpasses any other mod and even commercial game.

Wednesday, May 26, 2010

void wrote : We've seen Bid For Power getting shut down and that letter wasn't pretty.

Earth Special Forces was never really popular to begin with and when it finally was the "damage" was already done (which is probably why Zeth mentioned Public Beta 2's release).

YouTube is a very dangerous platform in this situation as it is scanned automatically for certain keywords and the second Dragon Ball Kai gets released to NA you can bet your buttocks that they'll increase their efforts to stop episodes from being uploaded.

There's a difference between a few Public Beta 1 videos showing fights and a big trailer announcing a feature list which surpasses any other mod and even commercial game.

"Hey nice job Domitjen"

"Hey great effort you put in this "

"Wow you really contacted those 2 guys and got them to agreement?"

sigh

If there is any second of a danger in this I will immediatly put everything down, but as far as it goes now, it will increase the popularity of the game and still won't be a danger. This mod does exceed every else mod or it will be and that's why it should be known. You guys have to be proud on this project and not trying to make it behind sealed doors. I get your points, I agree with it, But I will continue with this until I get the word that we are in a dangerious position

Wednesday, May 26, 2010

Nobody ever questioned your effort. The old school guys have seen this happening before though and you've already put ZEQ2 Lite in a dangerous position. You can't pull out of it, as they'll not give you any warning. If they discover it and consider it a threat they'll review it and send a C&D, then it's game over. No chance to pull out.

Wednesday, May 26, 2010

You don't seem to understand domitjen. Taking the video down once there is "danger" won't help. It will already be too late then. And ZEQ2 lite would get a cease and desist order. Simply for using the funimation dub voices in the game they can get us, there is no way we would win the arguement. It is in fact a real threat.

Wednesday, May 26, 2010

void wrote : Nobody ever questioned your effort. The old school guys have seen this happening before though and you've already put ZEQ2 Lite in a dangerous position. You can't pull out of it, as they'll not give you any warning. If they discover it and consider it a threat they'll review it and send a C&D, then it's game over. No chance to pull out.

Well if it's already in danger, no need to back down now then I guess

Wednesday, May 26, 2010

domitjen wrote :

void wrote : Nobody ever questioned your effort. The old school guys have seen this happening before though and you've already put ZEQ2 Lite in a dangerous position. You can't pull out of it, as they'll not give you any warning. If they discover it and consider it a threat they'll review it and send a C&D, then it's game over. No chance to pull out.

Well if it's already in danger, no need to back down now then I guess

The more exposure, the more chance of course. We will have to wait and see what happens.

Wednesday, May 26, 2010

TRL wrote :

domitjen wrote :

void wrote : Nobody ever questioned your effort. The old school guys have seen this happening before though and you've already put ZEQ2 Lite in a dangerous position. You can't pull out of it, as they'll not give you any warning. If they discover it and consider it a threat they'll review it and send a C&D, then it's game over. No chance to pull out.

Well if it's already in danger, no need to back down now then I guess

The more exposure, the more chance of course. We will have to wait and see what happens.

And that will be exactly what we'll do.

anyone ever considered that this could perhaps maybe a little bit an positive impact on things?

it's not like they are THE MOST FAMOUS ON YOUTUBE EVER . They just have average high views. and that would help. If I would have contacted teamfourstar who has 100 000's of views each week, then yes it would be dangerous. But a thousand a few days will be good for ZEQ2 lite and won't harm anyone

Wednesday, May 26, 2010

domitjen wrote :

TRL wrote :

domitjen wrote :

void wrote : Nobody ever questioned your effort. The old school guys have seen this happening before though and you've already put ZEQ2 Lite in a dangerous position. You can't pull out of it, as they'll not give you any warning. If they discover it and consider it a threat they'll review it and send a C&D, then it's game over. No chance to pull out.

Well if it's already in danger, no need to back down now then I guess

The more exposure, the more chance of course. We will have to wait and see what happens.

And that will be exactly what we'll do.

anyone ever considered that this could perhaps maybe a little bit an positive impact on things?

I don't like your tone man. We are simply explaining you the risk involved.

Wednesday, May 26, 2010

TRL wrote :

domitjen wrote :

TRL wrote :

domitjen wrote :

void wrote : Nobody ever questioned your effort. The old school guys have seen this happening before though and you've already put ZEQ2 Lite in a dangerous position. You can't pull out of it, as they'll not give you any warning. If they discover it and consider it a threat they'll review it and send a C&D, then it's game over. No chance to pull out.

Well if it's already in danger, no need to back down now then I guess

The more exposure, the more chance of course. We will have to wait and see what happens.

And that will be exactly what we'll do.

anyone ever considered that this could perhaps maybe a little bit an positive impact on things?

I don't like your tone man. We are simply explaining you the risk involved.

And I'm simply explaining my motivations.

Wednesday, May 26, 2010

Perhaps there was some confusion in my original postings. I merely wanted Domitjen to understand both sides of the coin. Despite the obvious risks involved, this does present the very opportunity his original intentions are based from. Additional fans means additional developers and a definite growth in fan-base -- thus likely addons as well.

Even though the world doesn't work ideally as it should pertaining to free thought and media, it doesn't mean the growth of an idea (with no supportable intention to harm) should be suppressed when it's very core promotes that of community, progression, and creation.

Despite the outcome, good or bad, it is the RIGHT thing to do.