ZEQ2 Lite

Monday, August 02, 2010

Well LEAVE IT.

Monday, August 02, 2010

Djsonic wrote : Well LEAVE IT.

that made even less sense...are you using a translator?

Monday, August 02, 2010

This is not a chat forum, make sense and stop posting nonsense posting on to this topic.

Monday, August 02, 2010

I suggest not to buy half life until Earth Special Forces releses the beta, because Earth Special Forces 1,2,3 is really a piece of trash.

Monday, August 02, 2010

I got Half-Life gifted by a friend of mine, and I was playing The Specialists and Sven Co-bloppity blip bloop online. And I even played Earth's Special Forces and Naruto: Naiteki Kensei with a friend of mine.

What buying the game has to do with any of it's mods anyway?

Monday, August 02, 2010

najeeb wrote :

Buksna wrote :

TheXenon wrote : ZEQ2-lite you mean.. ZEQ2 started LOOOOOONG ago as well. There's a huge difference between ZEQ2 and ZEQ2-lite..

Yes I know...I'm lazy to write lite...you know what I mean...

Earth Special Forces looks cool but it had lot of years behind and zeq2lite has started before 6 months, using some elements from ZEQ2, but again made almost from scratch

1.3 I superior to todays ZEQ2 lite but Earth Special Forces 123 version suc.. compare to ZEQ2 lite

To ESFR: yes, I'm not saying its bad game, it was the best Dragon Ball Z game ever made until I played zeq2lite (for me)

Hated small maps

Regards

no Earth Special Forces 1.2.3 with ecx rc2 and budukai 3.0 pack was better than ZEQ2 lite

this is the first beta of zeq2lite

Monday, August 02, 2010

guys I want to create chraracters can some one help me please

Monday, August 02, 2010

goku581 wrote : guys I want to create chraracters can some one help me please :*laughing out loud*: :*laughing out loud*: :*laughing out loud*:

that has nothing to do with this thread....anyways have you tried searching the forums?

Monday, August 09, 2010

*laughing out loud* here guys what I found on Earth Special Forces forum x D this guy is having orgasms.

I've gotta be honest with you

I'm having an ice cream moment with Earth Special Forces final... you guys really did something far from what I was thinking when I heard about it(when it comes to videos and Animations of course..since that's what we can see until its released)
I quit Earth Special Forces after 7 years ( of hardcore palying *laughing out loud*.. thanks to a cool mmo..and now is server maintenance and I'm bored *intense laughter*

Good job Earth Special Forces team,love your work so far

Monday, August 09, 2010

boris wrote : *laughing out loud* here guys what I found on Earth Special Forces forum x D this guy is having orgasms.

I've gotta be honest with you

I'm having an ice cream moment with Earth Special Forces final... you guys really did something far from what I was thinking when I heard about it(when it comes to videos and Animations of course..since that's what we can see until its released)
I quit Earth Special Forces after 7 years ( of hardcore palying *laughing out loud*.. thanks to a cool mmo..and now is server maintenance and I'm bored *intense laughter*

Good job Earth Special Forces team,love your work so far

this guy got a NERDGASM from ZEQ2 lite on moddb

WarlockSyno Aug 8 2010, 3:29am says:
I'm sure you're aware of this, but... Those trees need some detail.

Other than that.

CAN'T WAIT. *NERDGASM*

Tuesday, August 10, 2010

boris wrote : I suggest not to buy half life until Earth Special Forces releses the beta, because Earth Special Forces 1,2,3 is really a piece of trash.

Earth Special Forces openbeta latest patch before final beta is a lot more fun than zeq2lite it has more animations more characters and more compatibilities , and even Earth Special Forces 1.2.3 with ecx rc2 and big pacl is a lot more fun

Tuesday, August 10, 2010

Even then, ZEQ2-Lite Reloaded won't be near as good as the fan-made ECX addon at all.

Tuesday, August 10, 2010

well I read some page herre from this thread and some post are completely wrong
with illegal half-life copy you can play online :S and I mean even on offizial servers lan servers are working correct at me to but it doesn't matter who of you guys would buy an old game just for a mod? :S

Tuesday, August 10, 2010

Valve themselves said that the games nor the engine based on the games are based of (GoldSrc) are supported anymore. Their only focus now is the Source Engine, mostly the Team Fortress 2 / Left 4 Dead 2 engine.

Tuesday, August 10, 2010

JadenKorn wrote : Even then, ZEQ2-Lite Reloaded won't be near as good as the fan-made ECX addon at all.

It's not near finished...and Najeeb is the only one who is working on that.

Tuesday, August 10, 2010

DaGGeR wrote : well I read some page herre from this thread and some post are completely wrong
with illegal half-life copy you can play online :S and I mean even on offizial servers lan servers are working correct at me to but it doesn't matter who of you guys would buy an old game just for a mod? :S

Than you can play Earth Special Forces 1.3 and Naiteki Kensei

Tuesday, August 10, 2010

Konan wrote :

DaGGeR wrote : well I read some page herre from this thread and some post are completely wrong
with illegal half-life copy you can play online :S and I mean even on offizial servers lan servers are working correct at me to but it doesn't matter who of you guys would buy an old game just for a mod? :S

Than you can play Earth Special Forces 1.3 and Naiteki Kensei

yes but not at all servers I can play till now at 7 servers from Earth Special Forces LT server the offizial one and some other ips I saved :S its they just don't want that we using cracked games *laughing out loud* every cracked game is online playable :S

Tuesday, August 10, 2010

Lets see. If we start giving support for plundering booty well be kicked off the host and that would be the least of our problems.

So why bother and simply go with a hard against and save us the trouble.

Also what is it with all this comparison. ZEQ2 is ZEQ2 and Earth Special Forces is Earth Special Forces. There is no competition simply play what you want, be it one, the other or both.

So can people please stop arguing which one is better. They are made by different teams, have a different approach and a different style of gameplay. Other than the fact that they both take Dragon Ball Z as a theme, they can not be compared at any point, because they have no common points to compare them by.


As for why we are posting news about new features that are common in games since over 5 years ago. Its simple. Half Life can not do that. We had to make our own system coded from scratch. So we are making a news post saying "We did this on Half Life" no other reason.

Tuesday, August 17, 2010

ZEQ2 IS BETTER.

Tuesday, August 17, 2010

boris wrote : ZEQ2 IS BETTER.

Yeah because its more dbzish

Tuesday, August 17, 2010

Gerrard95 wrote :

boris wrote : ZEQ2 IS BETTER.

Yeah because its more dbzish

You guys really didn't read what Grega wrote right?

And if you really can't resist to give a comparisation, then at least give some reasons to it, The pro's and the con's of both games for example. Just saying ZEQ2 LITE is better or Earth Special Forces is better without any motivation is ill-advised.

Tuesday, August 17, 2010

JadenKorn wrote : Even then, ZEQ2-Lite Reloaded won't be near as good as the fan-made ECX addon at all.

true . it's not like I have coders or modellers or 2D artist on the project , its only me working with nabako too sometimes

Tuesday, August 17, 2010

As for why we are posting news about new features that are common in games since over 5 years ago. Its simple. Half Life can not do that. We had to make our own system coded from scratch. So we are making a news post saying "We did this on Half Life" no other reason.

I think the issue void (and some other programmers I've spoke to) have is that the Earth Special Forces posts are VERY misleading in that it gives the impression/illusion that they created these fantastic new capabilities despite them actually being SUPER dated/common technical design approaches available in engines (some, yes, for a decade -- not 5 years). Whether they existed in Half Life natively is quite irrelevant to the presentation and exposure style that's being given publicly.

Additionally, it's misguided to call it the "Half-Life" engine at this point. From what I remember at Naruto: Naiteki Kensei, the process involves using hijacked dlls/function calls to bypass the ORIGINAL Half-life rendering pipeline and replace it with more modern and direct OpenGL functionality. Granted, yes, the network code and many other aspects of goldsrc are still preserved, but the actual rendering core itself is mostly custom written.

Although most engines will pull from various sources for third-party libraries concerning physics, audio, input, etc., the rendering layer itself is typically a pivotal defining factor of what the engine's identity is about. Since this has been replaced by a new layer, you'd be better off calling it as another engine (or sub-engine).

Regardless of Half-Life's lack of engine source exposure, I think it's fair to say that Earth Special Forces's rendering redefinitions qualify it as a derivative engine and not the parent engine itself.

Take into consideration an actual similar idea. xReal. While heavily modified from Quake 3, xReal absolutely CANNOT be called the Quake 3 engine anymore. The mesh formats, mapping features, rendering features, and even the actual virtual machine code plan was completely non-standard from Quake 3's normal pipeline and capability -- much like is the case with Earth Special Forces.

If you alter something to a certain degree, regardless of qualifiers, there always comes a point where calling it by the "original" name becomes moot and a misrepresentation overall.

Tuesday, August 17, 2010

Zeth wrote :

As for why we are posting news about new features that are common in games since over 5 years ago. Its simple. Half Life can not do that. We had to make our own system coded from scratch. So we are making a news post saying "We did this on Half Life" no other reason.

I think the issue void (and some other programmers I've spoke to) have is that the Earth Special Forces posts are VERY misleading in that it gives the impression/illusion that they created these fantastic new capabilities despite them actually being SUPER dated/common technical design approaches available in engines (some, yes, for a decade -- not 5 years). Whether they existed in Half Life natively is quite irrelevant to the presentation and exposure style that's being given publicly.

Additionally, it's misguided to call it the "Half-Life" engine at this point. From what I remember at Naruto: Naiteki Kensei, the process involves using hijacked dlls/function calls to bypass the ORIGINAL Half-life rendering pipeline and replace it with more modern and direct OpenGL functionality. Granted, yes, the network code and many other aspects of goldsrc are still preserved, but the actual rendering core itself is mostly custom written.

Although most engines will pull from various sources for third-party libraries concerning physics, audio, input, etc., the rendering layer itself is typically a pivotal defining factor of what the engine's identity is about. Since this has been replaced by a new layer, you'd be better off calling it as another engine (or sub-engine).

Regardless of Half-Life's lack of engine source exposure, I think it's fair to say that Earth Special Forces's rendering redefinitions qualify it as a derivative engine and not the parent engine itself.

Take into consideration an actual similar idea. xReal. While heavily modified from Quake 3, xReal absolutely CANNOT be called the Quake 3 engine anymore. The mesh formats, mapping features, rendering features, and even the actual virtual machine code plan was completely non-standard from Quake 3's normal pipeline and capability -- much like is the case with Earth Special Forces.

If you alter something to a certain degree, regardless of qualifiers, there always comes a point where calling it by the "original" name becomes moot and a misrepresentation overall.

*claps hands* I think Zeth was right though. >_>

Tuesday, August 17, 2010

didn't you say that you guys have Zios engine...

what's xreal ?