Everyone, lock the trapdoors and prepare the cannons! We are going to DEFCON 2!
VLadD
Friday, January 11, 2013
WWTTFF???? Goku more and more stronger than Super-man
DarkPrince_92
Friday, January 11, 2013
Superman = bloppity blip bloop. Superman PRIME = bloppity blip bloop x 300 Billion
Konan
Friday, January 11, 2013
DarkPrince_92 wrote : Superman = bloppity blip bloop. Superman PRIME = bloppity blip bloop x 300 Billion
RAAAAGE!
ghostbusters can capture your..super****, and put him into a bigger box, and a way bigger and..nevermind.
ZethThe Admin
Friday, January 11, 2013
The key problem with the entire video is that all of the numerical abasements use "real world physics" as a form of measurement rather than the systems and physics of the individual worlds in question. While one could argue that Superman was designed to primarily fit in a realistic modern scenario given his introduction and history parallels, Goku was most certainly not.
Additionally, I did find it strange that they immediately "threw out" and disregarded the concept of power levels due only to the popularized misconception that there are glaring inconsistencies. This is something that's been perpetuated from incorrectly observing dialogue and quoted numerical values rather than relating respective actions and responses.
The criteria for selection of "prime forms" and what is considered "canon" is also highly debatable given the wide range of cited Superman comics/series for capabilities compared to more condensed sources for Goku. In specific, disregarding the English dub as a mis-translation rather than an alternative interpretation is a clear double standard if you are going to sample all modern super man sources without such questioning.
All in all, the victor (assuming a fight did happen) would depend on which version of Goku was fighting which version of Superman as well as which Universe rules and laws of physics you are choosing to abide by.
Ignoring obvious interaction problems in the animated fight scene itself, all their video proved was that a restricted-canon Goku using real-world physics, non-intrinsic scaling, and obscure numerical assumptions would be defeated by a modern Superman that was an optimal combination from all recent iterations. Basically, it was a comparative bias.
GoldenWarrior
Saturday, January 12, 2013
Zeth wrote : The key problem with the entire video is that all of the numerical abasements use "real world physics" as a form of measurement rather than the systems and physics of the individual worlds in question. While one could argue that Superman was designed to primarily fit in a realistic modern scenario given his introduction and history parallels, Goku was most certainly not.
Additionally, I did find it strange that they immediately "threw out" and disregarded the concept of power levels due only to the popularized misconception that there are glaring inconsistencies. This is something that's been perpetuated from incorrectly observing dialogue and quoted numerical values rather than relating respective actions and responses.
The criteria for selection of "prime forms" and what is considered "canon" is also highly debatable given the wide range of cited Superman comics/series for capabilities compared to more condensed sources for Goku. In specific, disregarding the English dub as a mis-translation rather than an alternative interpretation is a clear double standard if you are going to sample all modern super man sources without such questioning.
All in all, the victor (assuming a fight did happen) would depend on which version of Goku was fighting which version of Superman as well as which Universe rules and laws of physics you are choosing to abide by.
Ignoring obvious interaction problems in the animated fight scene itself, all their video proved was that a restricted-canon Goku using real-world physics, non-intrinsic scaling, and obscure numerical assumptions would be defeated by a modern Superman that was an optimal combination from all recent iterations. Basically, it was a comparative bias.
Zeth, why do you always make such long post's, sometimes I don't even feel like reading it...
Kakarot2550
Saturday, January 12, 2013
Hahahah I never read anything longer than what I wrote now!!
Post 2:
Got it,Wise
you are Wise masterro
ZethThe Admin
Saturday, January 12, 2013
Zeth, why do you always make such long post's, sometimes I don't even feel like reading it...
First and foremost, that post I just wrote was VERY short for what it could have been. Secondly, this is a forum and not a text message, facebook, or twitter environment. You are SUPPOSED to write verbose and intelligent posts to convey your points.
If you go to a forum and have one word/sentence posts for a discussion, you're practically just wasting time and space. Realistically, I should put a 50-100 word minimum for any post, but there are exceptions to the rule when it comes to non-discussion topics.
najeebMy Sir
Saturday, January 12, 2013
at the end of the day , death battle is nothing more than just a opinion , superman in my opinion stays ahead of Goku
okay I get that people assumed the 50x increase with the Super Saiyan transformation and then Super Saiyan 2 was 2x Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan 3 was 2x Super Saiyan 2 so on , this video shows Super Saiyan 4 is 18 x Super Saiyan 3 , what the heck?
also why does the last stand type map gives off the zeq2lite maps feeling : P
last but not the least , I sorta wish they make more : P
RealDeal
Friday, January 25, 2013
here is the youtube link of the video,I must say it is the best video that convinces me,and an awesome ending
Zay
Friday, January 25, 2013
I do believe that Goku would win. I don't believe Clark has been trained in fighting at all. I believe superman would be too slow fighting wise. Speed wise I think they are equal with a slight advantage to Goku with the Instant Transmission. Also if you include the Senzu beans as they did then you would have to say Goku would win. Goku would probably be at his weakest of the fight and then all of a sudden Goku eats a Senzu bean. This would give him his power back and then also because of his Saiyan blood he would also receive a nice helping of power back.
ZethThe Admin
Saturday, January 26, 2013
They had plenty of gathered "facts", sure, but most were skewed by double standards, misinterpretations, and poorly scoped assumptions.
The above points in my first post remain.
DarkPrince_92
Saturday, January 26, 2013
Yeah, pretty sure Goku got the short end of the stick with these gathering of "facts".
RealDeal
Saturday, January 26, 2013
DarkPrince_92 wrote : Yeah, pretty sure Goku got the short end of the stick with these gathering of "facts".
didn't Goku become immortal in end of gt?
DarkPrince_92
Saturday, January 26, 2013
I have no idea.... to be honest I couldn't tell anyone much about GT, haven't dug deep enough into to it. I'm pretty sure Goku by the end of GT is worlds stronger than the one that beat Omega.
RealDeal
Saturday, January 26, 2013
DarkPrince_92 wrote : I have no idea.... to be honest I couldn't tell anyone much about GT, haven't dug deep enough into to it. I'm pretty sure Goku by the end of GT is worlds stronger than the one that beat Omega.
but the dragon made Goku immortal didn't he?
edit-haven't seen gt ,just saying what I heard
Konan
Saturday, January 26, 2013
RealDeal wrote :
DarkPrince_92 wrote : I have no idea.... to be honest I couldn't tell anyone much about GT, haven't dug deep enough into to it. I'm pretty sure Goku by the end of GT is worlds stronger than the one that beat Omega.
but the dragon made Goku immortal didn't he?
edit-haven't seen gt ,just saying what I heard
NOPE, that's AN April Fools stuff.
Goku was ask a last wish from the Dragon, about help him save the earth once again than he can go to the otherworld. The Dragon, thanks to the Lloyds from other worlds, dimensions grants Goku's wish for a limited time, than Goku's body flied away to say hello to his friends, and then he's soul goes to the otherworld for eternal times.
April Fools is just about Goku is a to big legend, he has heroic soul so the Lloyds give back his body to save the earth again and again but that's a fan made story.