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GokuSSJ
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Monday, April 17, 2006
Hello just decided to join this community to return the favor of a buddy of mine from here like I promised
You will know more about me soon enough so just let’s skip the intro for now and let’s get back to the presents…
After re seeing the Freeza saga I couldn’t resist it to re model/skin him)
Ink and paint stuff: (I'm not that good at this kind of stuff)
no ink&paint:
And a huge one:
Meh and I’m currently working at this level, I know most of you already seen it or even play it ( the old version)
Let me know if you find something wrong with what I shoewed you and I will make sure to fix it
Cheers
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Alex
ZEQ2 Effects Programmer
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Monday, April 17, 2006
Not bad at all, though there's something about his shoulders which just looks unnatural and wrong, can't quite put my finger on it, though.
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Zeth
ZEQ2 Programmer
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Monday, April 17, 2006
Ooo I love the icy blue sky horizon background on the first render of Goku. Definently a keeper. Your Goku is looking up as well. Got a side/perspective of him?
As for your Roshi map, it's always as spick and span as ever . Good luck when you start to tackle the staircase and upstairs relations if you haven't already .
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Andreyesf
Sugar & Cocaine
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Monday, April 17, 2006
OH MY GOODNESS AMAZING GOOD WORK MAN ,Zeth this guy must be in your TEAM I mean look at he's maps and models
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Forza
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Monday, April 17, 2006
Sugar & Cocaine wrote : OH MY GOODNESS AMAZING GOOD WORK MAN ,Zeth this guy must be in your TEAM I mean look at he's maps and models 
As you could see when you opened the pictures, this guy works for another mod already: DBZ Hood.
Either way:
Does Goku really have no hips and such a small waist?
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RiO
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Monday, April 17, 2006
Forza wrote : Does Goku really have no hips and such a small waist? He doesn't. It's exactly what is bothering me about the model as well. Otherwise it looks pretty solid.
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essentara
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Monday, April 17, 2006
I think the belt (sache ?) needs to be moved up the body a bit, it seems to far down. maybe that would resolve the wierd lack of hips issue.
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GokuSSJ
Guest
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Monday, April 17, 2006
@ Zeth –
A side picture:
Thanks but I think you already know that I decorate the up stair place as well some time ago. If you don’t then let the pic speaks for itself:
http://gokussj.dbzhood.com/pics/kamehouse00004.jpg
@ RIO –
It seams like you guys don’t know to many about the Freeza saga Goku. But I can’t blame you, not even I knew about it…. Check out the pic:
Regarding the shoulders first time I made them stronger but after comparing more pictures I realized that they are not so strong like the ones from Buu saga. I made them smaller to look good from the back as well
Just take a look at the freeza saga Goku and then correct me if I’m wrong
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Super Vegetto
ZEQ2 Legend
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Monday, April 17, 2006
You are underestimating other people's eye for details and for accuracy that you might have missed especialy Zeth's eye for those things XD.
Some guys here know even more then just Frieza saga Goku, just listen to crits they can really help out.
By your refs, the waist is too thin, belt is too thick plus it should be raised a little.
I'll try and make a drawover for you according to those refs you posted.
EDIT:
Here we go:
couldnt match it perfectly to the perspective shot but it's easy to see the proportions issues.
EDIT:
And a side view:
Gonna post matching front and side views tomorrow ;'O
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Zeth
ZEQ2 Programmer
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Tuesday, April 18, 2006
There's one big thing I'm sure GokuSSJ has realized. Goku in the Namek Saga is just plain chubby. He's wider than typical and puffier in the stomach region. I'm sure GokuSSJ has also used far more refs than just the few he showed. It's off to the right foot in a great direction for a Namek Goku model .
The problem with the waist region that most people see was probably a mis-calculated call of judgement. I imagine that the GI torso was modeled to reflect the hang that occurs over the belt (thus making it look about half-size). After that was applied, it seems as though the original belt size was used without regard to the planned overhang specs. At least that's my theory. This results in a slightly larger upper waist line whereas it probably was designed to compensate for fold push.
SV's drawover is pretty dern neat (man, you must love your new tablet ) and has some good applicational use. As we all know though, basing a character only on one particular ref or small set of refs in a single episode is foolhardy. FOV, angle, and lack of distinct depth perception can be quite tricky aspects that have to be taken into regard when judging shapes and proportions. Additionally everyone knows that wind, battle length, travel, and general fatigue play roles in hair/clothing position and ruffle-ness.
Here's a simple mockup comparison between the ref's posted and the almost front position as well as some extra refs I hope will help out in determining your perspective average .
Goku.jpg

compareSide.jpg

comparison.jpg

Of course everyone remembers this gem.
Additional references.
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GokuSSJ
Guest
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Tuesday, April 18, 2006
ok I will see what I can do, good that I didn't started to rige him
thanks for the refs man also for the draw over, still I'm using only refs from the show and the picture you draw over is from a top left front angle not front
I didn't posted no front picture but in this case I will make a exception
stay 2nd
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dale_22x
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Tuesday, April 18, 2006
you know... hahaha...I feel silly...
haha... I've never accually checked out your site before..all I knew is that you where a mod and assumed it was for HL2....
but haha...=_= I always thought that...dbzhood...meant like.... da hood....and you guys where just trying to make it sound "gangster"......
..oh my... =( didn't ever think it would stand for somehting.....
then I kept seeing the phrase "heroes of our destiny" every where and I was wondering why......
then... I thought maybe.... ..and sure enoguh... =O the first letters of those 4 words make up ...HOOD...
:S
now das gangsta!
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Adas
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Tuesday, April 18, 2006
dale_22x wrote : you know... hahaha...I feel silly...
haha... I've never accually checked out your site before..all I knew is that you where a mod and assumed it was for HL2....
but haha...=_= I always thought that...dbzhood...meant like.... da hood....and you guys where just trying to make it sound "gangster"......
..oh my... =( didn't ever think it would stand for somehting.....
then I kept seeing the phrase "heroes of our destiny" every where and I was wondering why......
then... I thought maybe.... ..and sure enoguh... =O the first letters of those 4 words make up ...HOOD...
:S
now das gangsta!

*laughing out loud*?
anyway good going gokussj just make the skin lines a bit darker and a bit more sharpen, this will end up with a good result and scale the weist a bit . and if you need help with rendering ink and paint, just grab the material I left D2, or ask Andrei. It has nice anti aliased lines, and some other cool settings so your model will lookk better , and you can also try to do smthing like this , it will render your skin with a cool skin tone, if you are using 1 material for the whole model just assing the material only to the body parts look :
help.jpg

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Andreyesf
Sugar & Cocaine
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Tuesday, April 18, 2006
O and Goku try to update DBZHOOD page with new models new maps or videos or something...it has past 4 months we need UPDATESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!
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RaiDer
Genuine Pirate Therapy
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Tuesday, April 18, 2006
Sugar & Cocaine wrote : O and Goku try to update DBZHOOD page with new models new maps or videos or something...it has past 4 months we need UPDATESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!
Hey man, he gets hassle enough at his own forums, don't hassle the man here aswell. Like any mod, they'll update when they update. If you would have payed any attention to the subject matter of this thread, you'd know GokuSSJ is obviously hard at work on DBZHood..
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spyxter
Flutie Flakes
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Tuesday, April 18, 2006
damn... I've never noticed that Goku was soooo chubby during the freeza saga
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RaiDer
Genuine Pirate Therapy
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Wednesday, April 19, 2006
GokuSSJ, I don't know if you know or not, but. Your site and it's forums appear to be down, or it's just me *laughing out loud*.. Can anyone else access this page?? http://www.dbzhood.com/forums
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Super Snake
Sugar & Cocaine
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Wednesday, April 19, 2006
I can acces the site. Not the forum.
Strange, worked fine yesterday.
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GokuSSJ
Guest
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Saturday, April 22, 2006
@ Adas – thanks for the help man, but why not to ask you
Well this will sound off topic but yes we have some problems with our PHP server. We had this problem by many times due to our host. Now is back online.
anyway the update like I promised:
The model rige creates me some trouble with the shoulders when the hands are up (the hardest part), need to remake it again for the 3rd time. I think I need to make more cuts. Anyway this is a wip rige, the fingers are not even linked
Crits welcomed, Stay 2nd
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dale_22x
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Saturday, April 22, 2006
it's getting better
give a wire of the shoulder.... and anywhere else it messes up
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GokuSSJ
Guest
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Friday, May 12, 2006
Yep some times we have some problems with our PHP host. Most of the time the host drops coz of the site trafic. We are tired of e-mailling them ...
to go on topic
I think you guys already tracked this guy out over the Heroes Of Our Destiny community, if you didn’t then check the pics:
Credits to Super Veggeto for the face draw over
And yeah I bring ya android 18 unriged, but I think you already saw it if not then:
Hair a bit more real on opacity style
Regarding Android 18 going to start to rige her tomorrow so let me know if you find something wrong with it.
Later
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Super Snake
Sugar & Cocaine
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Friday, May 12, 2006
Hair from the side looks strange..
Sorry I can't explain better than that.
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