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Vegeta and his tail?
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SSJ50000 |
Friday, March 03, 2006That looks great. The only detail I think it could use is fixing the back of Vegeta's tail, when you look at it in the saiya-jin saga you can clearly see where it comes out at and wraps back over, from what I've seen of the back of that model it it's just a ring around him and makes it look more like he's wearing a brown belt.
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Blaize ZEQ2 Legend |
Friday, March 03, 2006the tail will be fixed in the future.
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Zeth ZEQ2 Programmer |
Friday, March 03, 2006when you look at it in the saiya-jin saga you can clearly see where it comes out at and wraps back over
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SSJ50000 |
Saturday, March 04, 2006Zeth wrote : Actually. Thats how the manga handles it, NOT the series. *laughing out loud* That is how the series handles it, too...
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Zeth ZEQ2 Programmer |
Saturday, March 04, 2006Just watch the Goku and Vegeta fight and you'll see plenty of times it's drawn about how it should be. A lot of animators were sloppy and forgot details(the fact that it was like that in the manga shows that's how it was really supposed to be in the show since that's what the design(which they'd all refer to but not all copy perfectly) was copied from, Toriyama would normaly get all the details down for the paper, but animators sometimes mess some of them up for the screen ).
Consistently, the tail wraps in a full rounded way in the series
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SSJ50000 |
Saturday, March 04, 2006Zeth wrote : You seemed to have missed a few key words in my statement.Consistently, the tail wraps in a full rounded way in the series No, I actually didn't, which is why I was trying to point out in the last post that in the series the "wrapped tail" is far more consistant than the... "belt look"(I just call it that 'cause since there's no end and goes all the way around, it seems more like a pull-on belt than a tail ). It sounded like you were saying the "wrapped tail" only appears in "manga snatches," wile the "belt look" appears in all other non-manga-snatched scenes. My point was that it's actually just the opposite, the "wrapped tail" appears in nearly all the non-snatched scenes, wile the "belt look" is only in a few, making the "wrapped tail" far more consistant(especially in fight scenes). I'm not saying manga affects should just be used(it would look kind of funny with things like that, perhaps that would be a fun thing to try some day ), I'm just pointing out how the "wrapped tail" is the more consistant thing,as well as how it's supposed to look in the series, and I think it would be better for the model and it's potential animations(with the "belt look" how would he unwrap it considering there's no start or end? ).
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Zeth ZEQ2 Programmer |
Saturday, March 04, 2006I'm just pointing out how the "wrapped tail" is the more consistant thing
I think it would be better for the model and it's potential animations(with the "belt look" how would he unwrap it considering there's no start or end? Razz ).
And the series still uses it's own designs in all the manga snatches, too.
EARLY on the series, flukes from the manga DID exist. These were eventually squashed as the style of art progressed and less 'colored frames' directly from the manga were used.
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SSJ50000 |
Saturday, March 04, 2006I guess if that model keeps the "belt look" and the tail actually is a tail and just looks like that since it folds back into itself like a ghost and the end pokes into his rear(ouch!) it could do. It just seems funny how it makes it look like there is no tail when wrapped up('twas once said, "A tail must have a begining and an end, otherwise 'tis not a tail but a belt" *laughing out loud* I remember a long time ago when I first noticed the "belt look" in one scene of the show and I thought,"What dumby drew that scene, that's no tail...").
Zeth wrote : Wow... Earlier I finished watching nearly all the saiya-jin saga episodes where Vegeta had his tail, I made sure to pay close attention to his bum the whole time(I even played every single fast scene in slow motion just to be sure I saw it all), and only a few times(I'm sure that wasn't even ten times...) did I see the "belt look"(where you can't make out an end to his tail, thus making it seem like a belt), and every other one of the countless scenes showed the "wrapped tail"(where you can make out the end of his tail going over where it started, thus making it look like an actual tail). If 85 percent of those scenes were of the "belt look", it should've appeared like over fifty times(yet it seemed the "wrapped tail" is what appeared over fifty times). I'm just so sure the "wrapped tail" appears soooo much more than the "belt look"... Please do point out it's appearances.
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Morpherex |
Monday, March 06, 2006SSJ50000 wrote : That looks great. The only detail I think it could use is fixing the back of Vegeta's tail, when you look at it in the saiya-jin saga you can clearly see where it comes out at and wraps back over, from what I've seen of the back of that model it it's just a ring around him and makes it look more like he's wearing a brown belt. :O Where'd you get that picture? |
Slipstream Catching On |
Monday, March 06, 2006Isn't the point moot either way? Who in their right mind is going to be staring at vegeta's bum all day admiring how vegeta's tail is either wrapped or slightly unwrapped around his waist?
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SSJ50000 |
Monday, March 06, 2006Slipstream wrote : Accuracy to the series is one thing, but do you think that these tiny, nit picky, and utterly inconsequential details are really worth your time arguing about -_-; *laughing out loud* Well, lately it has been sounding like the new goal is absolute perfection. The tail could be. I'll be looking forward to seeing Ozaru Vegeta and how that transformation will be handled if it can(I'm betting on a thing like in Sparking where the character phases out wile the ozaru phases in if it's included).
:O Where'd you get that picture? The pic of Goku and Vegeta looking at eachother? I scanned it from the manga obviously. It's in color because it's from the Kanzenban(the rereleased manga that came out a couple years ago, it's like the old manga but bigger, has some fixed details and new scenes, the chapters originaly made in color have their color again(like that pic shows), and the last chapter was changed to give the series a new ending). |
RiO |
Monday, March 06, 2006SSJ50000 wrote : I'll be looking forward to seeing Ozaru Vegeta and how that transformation will be handled if it can(I'm betting on a thing like in Sparking where the character phases out wile the ozaru phases in if it's included). Heck no. A phase in/out would be our last resort for a transformation. Sparking really did that? How intellectually lacking. If they had full control of the entire model format and everything, they could easily have done some form of morph target to make vegeta 'grow into' an Oozaru. Geez. What a cop out. |
Zangetsu |
Monday, March 06, 2006RiO wrote :SSJ50000 wrote : I'll be looking forward to seeing Ozaru Vegeta and how that transformation will be handled if it can(I'm betting on a thing like in Sparking where the character phases out wile the ozaru phases in if it's included).
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MDave ZEQ2 Ninja |
Monday, March 06, 2006Eh, theres no ingame transformations in DBZ Sparking. When does this vegeta phase in/out occur? In story mode?
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